2013 ZiPS Projections

[Scrap Irony]

Anyone else think the two keys to the Red season (assuming health for all) are Ludwick and Frazier? ZiPS doesn't like them nearly enough to suit me.

Nor, for that matter, do they particularly like Bailey, Chapman (as an innings-limited starter), or Phillips.

[Cedric]

Originally Posted by Scrap Irony

Anyone else think the two keys to the Red season (assuming health for all) are Ludwick and Frazier? ZiPS doesn't like them nearly enough to suit me.

Nor, for that matter, do they particularly like Bailey, Chapman (as an innings-limited starter), or Phillips.

I would say those two are the most "volatile" players on the team. I hope Bruce picks his game up even more and makes up for one or both of them possibly struggling.

I keep worrying about the injury bug with the rotation. Last year was just oh so perfect.

[Scrap Irony]

Originally Posted by Cedric

I would say those two are the most "volatile" players on the team. I hope Bruce picks his game up even more and makes up for one or both of them possibly struggling.

I keep worrying about the injury bug with the rotation. Last year was just oh so perfect.

I worry about the wrong guys getting injured. Cincinnati likely can't handle a long-time injury to two or more of the starters, Votto, Phillips, Frazier, or Bruce. Sadly, Cueto's due some arm woes, IMO. Who knows, with Latos, Chapman, and Bailey. Father Time will eventually catch up with Arroyo's mid 80s fastball.

Cincinnati's on the razor's edge, so to speak. (Much more, IMO, than St. Louis, though less than every other NL Central team.)

[Wonderful Monds]

Originally Posted by Scrap Irony

I worry about the wrong guys getting injured. Cincinnati likely can't handle a long-time injury to two or more of the starters, Votto, Phillips, Frazier, or Bruce. Sadly, Cueto's due some arm woes, IMO. Who knows, with Latos, Chapman, and Bailey. Father Time will eventually catch up with Arroyo's mid 80s fastball.

Cincinnati's on the razor's edge, so to speak. (Much more, IMO, than St. Louis, though less than every other NL Central team.)

I tend to imagine that most teams would be in bad shape if their best players were injured.

[reds44]

Originally Posted by Wonderful Monds

I tend to imagine that most teams would be in bad shape if their best players were injured.

The Reds seem to handle being without Votto fine last season.

[MikeThierry]

Originally Posted by reds44

The Reds seem to handle being without Votto fine last season.

Wouldn't it be kind of unreasonable to expect the Reds to have the same success if they lost Votto again? Certainly some luck was involved in that run they went on while he was out.