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Re: MLB investigating region in PED war - ESPN
I am more disappointed to hear this than I am surprised. PED's in pro sports are like college recruiting violations. The mentality is "don't get caught" rather than "don't freaking do it"
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01-29-2013, 11:31 AM
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This is really a surprise to anyone?
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01-29-2013, 12:13 PM
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And I reiterate my supposition that the Reds at least had an inkling of suspicion regarding Grandal when they included him in the Latos deal. Obviously it made sense from a depth standpoint, but perhaps the Reds weren't valuing him as highly as his performance might have suggested they should.
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01-29-2013, 12:17 PM
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01-29-2013, 12:46 PM
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It's really a shame, but his makes you wonder about guys that "turn the corner" in a year or two, and if they're using. I think baseball is really going to have to stiffen penalties to get this stuff to stop. Lifetime ban for first time offenders?
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01-29-2013, 12:58 PM
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01-29-2013, 01:12 PM
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01-29-2013, 01:27 PM
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A-Rod and Gio Gonzalez have already released statements saying the allegations against them are false.
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These clinics list names of folks that have never tested positive for banned substances. Is it all that outrageous to suggest that MLB's (and sports as a whole) testing process is an abject failure? Sure, every athlete deserves the benefit of the doubt, but I'm beyond the point where I'd be surprised to hear any athlete is a PED user.
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mlbtr.com is saying Gio Gonzalez is being linked to PED's by some Miami supplier. Anyone heard anymore about this?
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