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Old 01-30-2013, 10:22 PM   #76
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Care to link to your source?
Again, go to pubmed...it won't be hard. See if you independently arrive at the same conclusion without a biased introduction to the literature.
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Old 01-30-2013, 10:39 PM   #77
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Again, go to pubmed...it won't be hard. See if you independently arrive at the same conclusion without a biased introduction to the literature.
I think it would be easier if you sourced your claims. I can be objective, it's my job.
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Old 01-30-2013, 10:40 PM   #78
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I think it would be easier if you sourced your claims. I can be objective, it's my job.
And I think it would be just as easy to try and prove me wrong and learn from the experience of it rather than just argue with me. This conversation has been had before. If you're not that interested just scroll through the archives.
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Old 01-30-2013, 11:13 PM   #79
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And I think it would be just as easy to try and prove me wrong and learn from the experience of it rather than just argue with me. This conversation has been had before. If you're not that interested just scroll through the archives.
Yeah, I did my research and saw a bunch of aged studies and flawed analysis. Maybe I'm not seeing what you are. As I said, I'd be interested in reading where you drew your conclusions from.
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Old 01-30-2013, 11:28 PM   #80
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Yeah, I did my research and saw a bunch of aged studies and flawed analysis. Maybe I'm not seeing what you are. As I said, I'd be interested in reading where you drew your conclusions from.
Start by finding as many articles that show a HGH-induced increase in athletic performance as you can.
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Old 01-31-2013, 08:31 AM   #81
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Start by finding as many articles that show a HGH-induced increase in athletic performance as you can.
From my research I have seen that:
  • HGH usage has been found to increase athletic performance
  • Previous studies, while headlining that HGH does not increase performance, have some wild caveats at the end that would call into question the relevance of the research.
  • Most (or even all) of the studies that I have found that dispute the benefits of HGH usage are from a while back. It is reasonable to believe that the understanding of HGH benefits will continue to evolve.
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http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs...T04/301300053/

Fay Vincent: Treat druggies like Pete Rose

And I didn't notice before but Yasmani Grandal got named in that list with ARod.
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Fay Vincent: Treat druggies like Pete Rose

And I didn't notice before but Yasmani Grandal got named in that list with ARod.
Yes America.... Fay Vincent is still alive. Yes, I too am shocked.

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Can I just say I like this new "like" button? "Like" this comment if you agree.
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http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ryan-br...235650670.html

Ryan Braun's name is in records of the Miami-area clinic.
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Old 02-05-2013, 07:50 PM   #86
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Ryan Braun's name is in records of the Miami-area clinic.
No new news there.
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Old 02-05-2013, 07:51 PM   #87
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Ryan Braun's name is in records of the Miami-area clinic.
I was about to post this article. Is anyone shocked at this point?
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Old 02-05-2013, 07:53 PM   #88
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I was about to post this article. Is anyone shocked at this point?
If he used PED's last year I wouldn't be the least bit surprised. He had more motivation and more reason to continue using than anyone.
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I wonder if Brewer fans are going to continue to use the "tampered test" argument.
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If he used PED's last year I wouldn't be the least bit surprised. He had more motivation and more reason to continue using than anyone.
Once you've gotten off on a technicality you might as well go with what works!
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