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TRF · 02-12-2013, 02:20 PM

For me, that team is the New York Yankees. I see an old team here, with health issues all over the place. A thin rotation after the first two starters, and poor defense at SS, that will get worse this year if Jeter sees significant time there. I don't think they will hit enough to pass the Blue Jays or Orioles. And I think TB is better too, especially in the rotation.

I wouldn't cry seeing them miss out on the post season.

Tommyjohn25 · 02-12-2013, 02:21 PM

Dodgers. Maybe they won't miss the playoffs, but I don't see them living up to the hype.

RedsManRick · 02-12-2013, 02:26 PM

I'd agree with the Yankees. They're just too thin. The Jays and Rays are the class of that division.

I think the Dodgers are, if anything, underrated.

bucksfan2 · 02-12-2013, 02:28 PM

The Yankees haven't been hyped this season. IMO they have been talked about negatively this entire off season.

Two teams:
In the AL the Angles. Can they slug their way to the playoffs? Their pitching staff is Weaver and then pray for rain.

In the NL the Braves. IMO its a poorly constructed offensive team with too many swing and miss guys. I have questions as to whether their rotation can keep it together all season long. Hudson is old and can Beachy keep it all together.

westofyou · 02-12-2013, 02:29 PM

Toronto and Dodgers fall to the wayside

Ohayou · 02-12-2013, 02:34 PM

The Yankees get a lot of publicity, yes, but nothing positive. The Blue Jays, OTOH...

cumberlandreds · 02-12-2013, 02:38 PM

Dodgers. Other than Kershaw their starting pitching ain't anything to write home about. I can see the Blue Jays falling into this category too. I doubt that Dickey ever has a season like he had last year again.

westofyou · 02-12-2013, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by cumberlandreds

Dodgers. Other than Kershaw their starting pitching ain't anything to write home about. I can see the Blue Jays falling into this category too. I doubt that Dickey ever has a season like he had last year again.

Zach Greinke

Salukifan2 · 02-12-2013, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by westofyou

Zach Greinke

Has an average era of over 3.85 over the last 3 seasons. Not much to write home about.

cumberlandreds · 02-12-2013, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by westofyou

Zach Greinke

I had forgotten about him. But I am not a big fan of his either.

dougdirt · 02-12-2013, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Salukifan2

Has an average era of over 3.85 over the last 3 seasons. Not much to write home about.

Generally speaking, he has also had some of the terrible defenses behind him in his career too.

MikeThierry · 02-12-2013, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Salukifan2

Has an average era of over 3.85 over the last 3 seasons. Not much to write home about.

I'm glad I'm not the one who thinks he's an overrated pitcher. Yes his war is good only because he strikes out people. However, he's a mentally weak player that you cannot rely on. When I see him pitch, I do not have in my mind that he has the ability to throw a perfect game unlike the image I have in my mind of elite ace pitchers.

Still, I think the Dodgers will make it.

TRF · 02-12-2013, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Salukifan2

Has an average era of over 3.85 over the last 3 seasons. Not much to write home about.

And now half his games are in one of the better pitchers parks, in a division filled with pitcher's parks.

I like the Dodgers.

I also read constantly that the Yankees are hyped to at least get a wild card. Some writers like the SP and despite the age of the team, still like that offense. I'm not sold, but i mentioned them because of what i read. They were in the playoffs last year, and even though they were swept, two of those games were pretty winnable.

I think they are out this year, more because of TOR getting better and BAL can't be discounted, but then again... maybe.

edabbs44 · 02-12-2013, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by westofyou

Toronto and Dodgers fall to the wayside

Was going to say Toronto as well. Feels like Florida circa last year.

Tom Servo · 02-12-2013, 03:14 PM

I want to say the Dodgers, but it seems like they are doing everything possible to ensure a playoff appearance. They already have a stacked bullpen but are regularly signing great/once great relievers whose market has been hurt by their injuries to minor league deals, and they have EIGHT starters (Kershaw, Greinke, Beckett, Ryu, Billingsley, Lilly Capuano, and Harang) who are starters in any team's rotation.

02-12-2013, 02:20 PM	#1
TRF Vavasor Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Amarillo, TX Posts: 12,669	What hyped team can you see missing the playoffs completely? For me, that team is the New York Yankees. I see an old team here, with health issues all over the place. A thin rotation after the first two starters, and poor defense at SS, that will get worse this year if Jeter sees significant time there. I don't think they will hit enough to pass the Blue Jays or Orioles. And I think TB is better too, especially in the rotation. I wouldn't cry seeing them miss out on the post season. __________________ "don't end up with a grandson with a dog collar."

02-12-2013, 02:21 PM	#2
Tommyjohn25 Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Fairborn, OH Posts: 1,839	Re: What hyped team can you see missing the playoffs completely? Dodgers. Maybe they won't miss the playoffs, but I don't see them living up to the hype. __________________ Benzinger backing and calling! And the 1990 world championship series belongs to the Cincinnati Reds!

02-12-2013, 02:26 PM	#3
RedsManRick Stat Wanker Hodiernus Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 14,907	Re: What hyped team can you see missing the playoffs completely? I'd agree with the Yankees. They're just too thin. The Jays and Rays are the class of that division. I think the Dodgers are, if anything, underrated. __________________ Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

02-12-2013, 02:28 PM	#4
bucksfan2 Waitin til next year Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 9,610	Re: What hyped team can you see missing the playoffs completely? The Yankees haven't been hyped this season. IMO they have been talked about negatively this entire off season. Two teams: In the AL the Angles. Can they slug their way to the playoffs? Their pitching staff is Weaver and then pray for rain. In the NL the Braves. IMO its a poorly constructed offensive team with too many swing and miss guys. I have questions as to whether their rotation can keep it together all season long. Hudson is old and can Beachy keep it all together.

02-12-2013, 02:29 PM	#5
westofyou breath Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: PDX Posts: 39,326	Re: What hyped team can you see missing the playoffs completely? Toronto and Dodgers fall to the wayside

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Ohayou Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Dayton, OH Posts: 736	Re: What hyped team can you see missing the playoffs completely? The Yankees get a lot of publicity, yes, but nothing positive. The Blue Jays, OTOH... __________________ Choo got it, dude.

02-12-2013, 02:38 PM	#7
cumberlandreds Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Sterling VA Posts: 7,826	Re: What hyped team can you see missing the playoffs completely? Dodgers. Other than Kershaw their starting pitching ain't anything to write home about. I can see the Blue Jays falling into this category too. I doubt that Dickey ever has a season like he had last year again. __________________ Reds Fan Since 1971

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Tom Servo thirsty and miserable Join Date: May 2006 Location: NJ/NY Posts: 5,383	Re: What hyped team can you see missing the playoffs completely? I want to say the Dodgers, but it seems like they are doing everything possible to ensure a playoff appearance. They already have a stacked bullpen but are regularly signing great/once great relievers whose market has been hurt by their injuries to minor league deals, and they have EIGHT starters (Kershaw, Greinke, Beckett, Ryu, Billingsley, Lilly Capuano, and Harang) who are starters in any team's rotation. __________________ "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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