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OnBaseMachine · 02-12-2013, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by M2

Hopefully this Latos deal sets the table for an extension.

Agreed. I'm hoping for around a 4-5 year extension. I think Latos is on the verge of becoming an elite pitcher. It wouldn't surprise me if he wins a Cy Young award in the next couple seasons.

mdccclxix · 02-12-2013, 03:59 PM

I hope the Reds keep him through his 30 year old season.

_Sir_Charles_ · 02-12-2013, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Tommyjohn25

If that's the way he feels, then that's a shame. This organization has been very patient and supportive of Homer.

This has been true the past couple of seasons. But prior to that, not so much. He was rushed...BADLY. The fans never really supported him early on either.

I could see him signing an extension...but it won't be for any discount. If we want to keep him, we'll have to PAY for it. If he had his preference, I think he'd prefer to head back to Texas...or at least down south. Put him in a park that doesn't so heavily penalize a fly ball...he could be a MONSTER.

New York Red · 02-12-2013, 04:33 PM

I like it!

Blitz Dorsey · 02-12-2013, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Pony Boy

I think that you are correct on Bailey. My friend hung out with Bailey for a night and said that Bailey was very open about not liking Cincinnati. He didnt have nice things to say about Bailey.

I think we need to be very careful posting stuff like this. Even you can't be 100 percent sure it's true. But suddenly, "Bailey doesn't like the city of Cincinnati" can be taken as fact, when it's far from it. None of us heard him say it. Even you heard it second-hand.

Just has a "Ferris passed out at 31 Flavors" feel to it. Bailey finally turned the corner big-time last year. Our fans posting unsubstantiated rumors about him not liking it here just doesn't do any good, IMO.

Tom Servo · 02-12-2013, 05:01 PM

Glad that we will have Dallas Latos and Cat Latos around for a while.

Oh and Mat too.

Pony Boy · 02-12-2013, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Blitz Dorsey

I think we need to be very careful posting stuff like this. Even you can't be 100 percent sure it's true. But suddenly, "Bailey doesn't like the city of Cincinnati" can be taken as fact, when it's far from it. None of us heard him say it. Even you heard it second-hand.

Just has a "Ferris passed out at 31 Flavors" feel to it. Bailey finally turned the corner big-time last year. Our fans posting unsubstantiated rumors about him not liking it here just doesn't do any good, IMO.

You are probably right. It is gossipy I should have kept it to myself.

RedEye · 02-12-2013, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Degenerate39

Hopefully they can work an extension some time next year or so

Yeah, this seems like vintage Jocketty to me. Probably broached the topic of a longer deal, but couldn't come together, so decided on a shorter one like this. It's similar, in some ways, to what they did with Votto before eventually making a longer commitment. I like it. I think that above and beyond the dollar figure (which is fine), WJ is making a statement here and preserving a good rapport with a player they obviously view as a cornerstone for the future.

Scrap Irony · 02-12-2013, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blitz Dorsey

Just has a "Ferris passed out at 31 Flavors" feel to it. Bailey finally turned the corner big-time last year. Our fans posting unsubstantiated rumors about him not liking it here just doesn't do any good, IMO.

I agree.

On another topic entirely, I heard Joey Votto likes fancy coffees and shopping for trendy flannel shirts.

RED VAN HOT · 02-12-2013, 06:29 PM

We probably should have expected this outcome. A LTC would be difficult at this point. There is too much uncertainty on both sides. Three years from now Latos could be worth $30M/yr or virtually nothing if he has health issues. From Latos's point of view, the potential for a big payday in his FA year when he will be 28, is still there. He is not likely to ever be worth more than he will at that age. From the Reds point of view, they can revisit the LTC in two years. At that point his long term value will be better known. If a LTC could not be negotiated, then the Reds would have the option of trading him or retaining him and making a qualifying offer.

It will never be as easy to go long term for pitchers as for position players. Besides the disadvantages of GABP, there is also a greater health risk which a small market team simply cannot take. The Reds can only hope that fair treatment, winning, cohesive teams, and the joy of being a big fish in a smaller pond will carry some weight.

It is not surprising that most of the top prospects are pitchers. Attracting and retaining hitters is a simpler task. A pipeline of home grown pitching is the key to maintaining competitive teams. I expect to see more HS pitchers with big arms drafted and developed slowly so that the Reds can get their full six years.

AmarilloRed · 02-12-2013, 06:39 PM

Are the bonuses included in the 11.5 million or do they push it over that?

Roy Tucker · 02-12-2013, 07:05 PM

Walt does good work.

Raisor · 02-12-2013, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Scrap Irony

I agree.

On another topic entirely, I heard Joey Votto likes fancy coffees and shopping for trendy flannel shirts.

and will never EVER sign a long term deal with the Reds. Ever.

Tom Servo · 02-12-2013, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Raisor

and will never EVER sign a long term deal with the Reds. Ever.

And he's a boozer.

wlf WV · 02-12-2013, 09:35 PM

It's fun to be a Reds fan again

02-12-2013, 03:59 PM	#32
mdccclxix Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,652	Re: Latos signs 2yr deal I hope the Reds keep him through his 30 year old season.

02-12-2013, 04:33 PM	#34
New York Red Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Upstate New York Posts: 1,222	Re: Latos signs 2yr deal I like it! __________________ "I talked to an advance scout that told me if Joey Votto and Albert Pujols were on the same team he'd advise his team to do the unthinkable...pitch around Votto to get to Pujols." - Buster Olney, ESPN

02-12-2013, 05:01 PM	#36
Tom Servo thirsty and miserable Join Date: May 2006 Location: NJ/NY Posts: 5,391	Re: Latos signs 2yr deal Glad that we will have Dallas Latos and Cat Latos around for a while. Oh and Mat too. __________________ "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

02-12-2013, 06:29 PM	#40
RED VAN HOT Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 928	Re: Latos signs 2yr deal We probably should have expected this outcome. A LTC would be difficult at this point. There is too much uncertainty on both sides. Three years from now Latos could be worth $30M/yr or virtually nothing if he has health issues. From Latos's point of view, the potential for a big payday in his FA year when he will be 28, is still there. He is not likely to ever be worth more than he will at that age. From the Reds point of view, they can revisit the LTC in two years. At that point his long term value will be better known. If a LTC could not be negotiated, then the Reds would have the option of trading him or retaining him and making a qualifying offer. It will never be as easy to go long term for pitchers as for position players. Besides the disadvantages of GABP, there is also a greater health risk which a small market team simply cannot take. The Reds can only hope that fair treatment, winning, cohesive teams, and the joy of being a big fish in a smaller pond will carry some weight. It is not surprising that most of the top prospects are pitchers. Attracting and retaining hitters is a simpler task. A pipeline of home grown pitching is the key to maintaining competitive teams. I expect to see more HS pitchers with big arms drafted and developed slowly so that the Reds can get their full six years.

02-12-2013, 06:39 PM	#41
AmarilloRed Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Amarillo,Texas Posts: 3,997	Re: Latos signs 2yr deal Are the bonuses included in the 11.5 million or do they push it over that?

02-12-2013, 07:05 PM	#42
Roy Tucker Be the ball Join Date: May 2001 Location: Mason, OH Posts: 11,117	Re: Latos signs 2yr deal Walt does good work. __________________ "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit."

02-12-2013, 09:35 PM	#45
wlf WV Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: huntington,wv Posts: 526	Re: Latos signs 2yr deal It's fun to be a Reds fan again __________________ May the Father and Son bless Lyle

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