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Tools of Ignorance · 02-13-2013, 01:55 PM

Has anyone seen this?

Thoughts?

http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2013/0...ntcmp=HPBucket

RedsManRick · 02-13-2013, 02:03 PM

As I've said many times else. I HATE revisionist history. Acting like something didn't happen neither honors the game nor educates the fans.

westofyou · 02-13-2013, 02:06 PM

Topps is an Eisner run company, simply looking for free press in a market saturated and dated

marcshoe · 02-13-2013, 02:18 PM

I didn't realize that Topps had the authority to do this.

Can someone explain which of Rose's hits became illegitimate because he bet on baseball?

George Anderson · 02-13-2013, 02:35 PM

I am about as far as you can get from being a Pete Rose kool aid drinker but thats just stupid.

traderumor · 02-13-2013, 02:38 PM

I like the logic used to reach the decision--simple and plain and simple. In other words, I just decided it was right, so it was right.

Pony Boy · 02-13-2013, 02:39 PM

As westofyou said, this is so obviously an orchestrated move to manufacture a controversy and get people to talk about baseball cards for the first time since 1986.

George Anderson · 02-13-2013, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pony Boy

As westofyou said, this is so obviously an orchestrated move to manufacture a controversy and get people to talk about baseball cards for the first time since 1986.

Yea but I think it will back fire. In the court of public opinion Pete is still loved by the fans so I can see a backlash where fans wont buy Topps cards as a form of protest.

redhawkfish · 02-13-2013, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by George Anderson

I am about as far as you can get from being a Pete Rose kool aid drinker but thats just stupid.

Agreed! I have grown weary of even hearing his name, but this is idiotic!

PuffyPig · 02-13-2013, 02:54 PM

I dislike Pete Rose for many, many things, but this makes zero sense.

RedsBaron · 02-13-2013, 02:58 PM

"You can't fix stupid"-Ron White.
To be consistent, Topps should announce that Ty Cobb will no longer be listed as having the highest career batting average because he was a racist and a really mean guy, so the honor of having the highest career batting average will go to Rogers Hornsby.....er, wait, Hornsby may have also been a bigot and he certainly was by all accounts a self-centered jerk, so the career batting average leader is now Shoeless Joe Jackson....er, wait, "Black Sox" you say.....hmmmm.....

Tom Servo · 02-13-2013, 03:15 PM

Have we gotten a response from Pete yet? Is he on Twitter? I feel like sooner or later he's just going to turn into The Iron Sheik and begin saying things like "F-- the no good Topps!"

Caveat Emperor · 02-13-2013, 03:34 PM

I heart manufactured controversy.

HotCorner · 02-13-2013, 04:15 PM

No ... Topps did not diss Pete Rose.

http://www.beckett.com/news/2013/02/...its-mlbs-call/

Quote:

Pete Rose has been banned from Major League Baseball and on its Ineligible List for more than 20 years now and that has meant one thing that should be obvious to collectors.

He hasn’t had a single, officially licensed baseball card since.

It’s nothing new, but his name being omitted from the Career Chase trivia lines in the 2013 Topps baseball set has at least one collector angry, who foolishly took Topps to task for something that’s out if its hands.

And I’ll use the word again. Foolish.

Why would I say that? Rose is on baseball’s Ineligible List — banned for life from the game for his gambling habits while manager of the Cincinnati Reds. That bans him from MLB products, too — and that’s Major League Baseball’s call. A player who is banned will not be in an MLB-approved product — period.

Caveat Emperor · 02-13-2013, 04:23 PM

They let Rose be part of the All-Century Team, on-field at an MLB-sanctioned event (ASG). I think one e-mail to MLB would have cleared the issue of putting his name (not his image, not his likeness, but the 8 letters that spell out his name) on a card.

Though, it's not like they've been particularly troubled by the issue of putting Rose's name on cards in the past (2006 Topps):

It's such a non-issue, though. I wouldn't be surprised to learn Topps was behind the "outrage" that started it as part of a viral marketing campaign to get people talking about baseball cards.

02-13-2013, 01:55 PM	#1
Tools of Ignorance Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Worthington, O-H-I-O Posts: 114	TOPPS disses Rose Has anyone seen this? Thoughts? http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2013/0...ntcmp=HPBucket

02-13-2013, 02:03 PM	#2
RedsManRick Stat Wanker Hodiernus Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 14,907	Re: TOPPS disses Rose As I've said many times else. I HATE revisionist history. Acting like something didn't happen neither honors the game nor educates the fans. __________________ Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

02-13-2013, 02:06 PM	#3
westofyou breath Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: PDX Posts: 39,325	Re: TOPPS disses Rose Topps is an Eisner run company, simply looking for free press in a market saturated and dated

02-13-2013, 02:18 PM	#4
marcshoe Ex-tixe Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Just past Mars Posts: 4,466	Re: TOPPS disses Rose I didn't realize that Topps had the authority to do this. Can someone explain which of Rose's hits became illegitimate because he bet on baseball? __________________ At the Edge of the Woods Preview Go to the edge of the cliff and jump off. Build your wings on the way down. --Ray Bradbury

02-13-2013, 02:35 PM	#5
George Anderson Beer is good!! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 4,116	Re: TOPPS disses Rose I am about as far as you can get from being a Pete Rose kool aid drinker but thats just stupid. __________________ "Boys, I'm one of those umpires that misses 'em every once in a while so if it's close, you'd better hit it." Cal Hubbard

02-13-2013, 02:38 PM	#6
traderumor Unsolicited Opinions Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Right Down Broadway Posts: 17,631	Re: TOPPS disses Rose I like the logic used to reach the decision--simple and plain and simple. In other words, I just decided it was right, so it was right. __________________ Can't win with 'em Can't win without 'em

02-13-2013, 02:39 PM	#7
Pony Boy Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Cincy Posts: 351	Re: TOPPS disses Rose As westofyou said, this is so obviously an orchestrated move to manufacture a controversy and get people to talk about baseball cards for the first time since 1986.

02-13-2013, 02:54 PM	#10
PuffyPig Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,671	Re: TOPPS disses Rose I dislike Pete Rose for many, many things, but this makes zero sense.

02-13-2013, 02:58 PM	#11
RedsBaron Big Red Machine Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Out Wayne Posts: 22,365	Re: TOPPS disses Rose "You can't fix stupid"-Ron White. To be consistent, Topps should announce that Ty Cobb will no longer be listed as having the highest career batting average because he was a racist and a really mean guy, so the honor of having the highest career batting average will go to Rogers Hornsby.....er, wait, Hornsby may have also been a bigot and he certainly was by all accounts a self-centered jerk, so the career batting average leader is now Shoeless Joe Jackson....er, wait, "Black Sox" you say.....hmmmm..... __________________ "Hey...Dad. Wanna Have A Catch?" Kevin Costner in "Field Of Dreams."

02-13-2013, 03:15 PM	#12
Tom Servo thirsty and miserable Join Date: May 2006 Location: NJ/NY Posts: 5,383	Re: TOPPS disses Rose Have we gotten a response from Pete yet? Is he on Twitter? I feel like sooner or later he's just going to turn into The Iron Sheik and begin saying things like "F-- the no good Topps!" __________________ "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

02-13-2013, 03:34 PM	#13
Caveat Emperor Titanic Struggles Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The 513 Posts: 12,129	Re: TOPPS disses Rose I heart manufactured controversy. __________________ Championships Matter. 22 Years and Counting...

02-13-2013, 04:23 PM	#15
Caveat Emperor Titanic Struggles Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The 513 Posts: 12,129	Re: TOPPS disses Rose They let Rose be part of the All-Century Team, on-field at an MLB-sanctioned event (ASG). I think one e-mail to MLB would have cleared the issue of putting his name (not his image, not his likeness, but the 8 letters that spell out his name) on a card. Though, it's not like they've been particularly troubled by the issue of putting Rose's name on cards in the past (2006 Topps): It's such a non-issue, though. I wouldn't be surprised to learn Topps was behind the "outrage" that started it as part of a viral marketing campaign to get people talking about baseball cards. __________________ Championships Matter. 22 Years and Counting... Last edited by Caveat Emperor; 02-13-2013 at 04:25 PM.

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