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Old 02-17-2013, 07:17 PM   #1
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Reds over/under

A few days ago Vegas released their over/under on the win total of MLB teams. So I thought it'd be a fun idea to start a Reds-related over/under thread. Here goes nothing!

1.Joey Votto homeruns- 29.5. I say over.
2.Aroldis Chapman IP- 150
3.Johnny Cueto wins- 17.5
4.Ryan Ludwick homeruns- 24.5
5.Joey Votto RBIs- 109.5
6.Todd Frazier homeruns- 19.5
7.Jonathan Broxton saves- 29.5
8.Choo OBP- .385
9.Jay Bruce homeruns- 34.5
10.Reds win total- 94.5
11. Reds postseason wins- 2.5

Granted, these are just a few of the very many I could do, so if you have any other interesting ones to add please feel free. Here are my guesses:

1. Over. I'm thinking Votto comes closer to his 2010 power numbers than 2011.
2. Under. I think he ends up back in the pen.
3. Under. I think a slight regression in performance is coming for Cueto, and the starting pitchers in general this year may find a bit less luck with the win total if the bullpen isn't as dominant as it was last year.
4. Under. I love Ludwick, but don't think he can match last year's performance.
5. Over. I think Votto's going to have his best RBI season yet.
6. Over. Frazier will no doubt hit his growing pains this year, but I think he has enough raw power to surpass 20 homers.
7. Under. For this reason- I think Chapman ends up as the closer.
8. Over.
9. Over.
10. Under. I'm thinking between 92-94 wins.
11. Over. This number is much more important than the regular season number .
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Old 02-17-2013, 07:29 PM   #2
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Re: Reds over/under

1.Joey Votto homeruns- 29.5.
2.Aroldis Chapman IP- 150
3.Johnny Cueto wins- 17.5
4.Ryan Ludwick homeruns- 24.5
5.Joey Votto RBIs- 109.5
6.Todd Frazier homeruns- 19.5
7.Jonathan Broxton saves- 29.5
8.Choo OBP- .385
9.Jay Bruce homeruns- 34.5
10.Reds win total- 94.5
11. Reds postseason wins- 2.5

1. Over. If he stays healthy all season he should hit 30+.
2. Over. He will end up with 170+
3. Under.
4. Under.
5. Over. Finally has decent table-setters.
6. Under. Not a believer in Frazier.
7. Over. He should get a lot of opportunities.
8. Over. But it will be close.
9. Over. 40+
10. Under. Closer to 90 wins.
11. Over.

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Old 02-17-2013, 07:37 PM   #3
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Re: Reds over/under

1.Joey Votto homeruns- 29.5 Over - I think he hits right around 30-32 HR. He should get more pitches to hit this season.

2.Aroldis Chapman IP- 150 Under - I chose under, but not by much. I think he'll throw around 140 innings.

3.Johnny Cueto wins- 17.5 Over - With an improved offense, Cueto should have quality run support this season. 18-20 wins is possible.

4.Ryan Ludwick homeruns- 24.5 Over - This one was very debatable to me. I'll go slightly over though as I think he has a chance to hit right around 25 HR.

5.Joey Votto RBIs- 109.5 Over - Should have plenty of RBI opportunities with Choo/Phillips 1-2.

6.Todd Frazier homeruns- 19.5 Over - He hit 19 last year. If he stays healthy he'll get more atbats this year. I'm going with around 22 HR.

7.Jonathan Broxton saves- 29.5 Under - I think Marshall and Hoover will get a few save chances too. Broxton won't miss this number by much.

8.Choo OBP- .385 Over - I think Choo is going to have a MVP type season. I'm thinking .390+ OBP.

9.Jay Bruce homeruns- 34.5 Over - He's getting better each season. Might this be the year he cracks 40 HR?

10.Reds win total- 94.5 Over - They won 97 last season, and added Choo this season. 95-100 wins is very possible.

11. Reds postseason wins- 2.5 Over - I'm picking the Reds to win the NL Pennant.
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Old 02-17-2013, 07:41 PM   #4
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Re: Reds over/under

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1.Joey Votto homeruns- 29.5. Under
2.Aroldis Chapman IP- 150 Over
3.Johnny Cueto wins- 17.5 Under
4.Ryan Ludwick homeruns- 24.5 Over
5.Joey Votto RBIs- 109.5 Under
6.Todd Frazier homeruns- 19.5 Over
7.Jonathan Broxton saves- 29.5 Over
8.Choo OBP- .385 Over
9.Jay Bruce homeruns- 34.5 Under
10.Reds win total- 94.5 Under
11. Reds postseason wins- 2.5 Over
Very nice questions, with well placed data points I might add. Some truly were too close to call, but you asked for answers and you got them.
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Old 02-17-2013, 09:21 PM   #5
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Re: Reds over/under

1.Joey Votto homeruns- 29.5. Over
2.Aroldis Chapman IP- 150 Under
3.Johnny Cueto wins- 17.5 Under
4.Ryan Ludwick homeruns- 24.5 Under
5.Joey Votto RBIs- 109.5 Over
6.Todd Frazier homeruns- 19.5 Under
7.Jonathan Broxton saves- 29.5 Over
8.Choo OBP- .385 Over
9.Jay Bruce homeruns- 34.5 Over
10.Reds win total- 94.5 Over
11. Reds postseason wins- 2.5 Over, I think the Reds will win 11 in the postseason.
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Old 02-17-2013, 11:47 PM   #6
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Re: Reds over/under

1.Joey Votto homeruns- 29.5.
2.Aroldis Chapman IP- 150
3.Johnny Cueto wins- 17.5
4.Ryan Ludwick homeruns- 24.5
5.Joey Votto RBIs- 109.5
6.Todd Frazier homeruns- 19.5
7.Jonathan Broxton saves- 29.5
8.Choo OBP- .385
9.Jay Bruce homeruns- 34.5
10.Reds win total- 94.5
11. Reds postseason wins- 2.5


1. Over. He's baaaaack.
2. Under. But not by much.
3. Under. Have a bad feeling about his health.
4. Over.
5. Over.
6. Over. But struggles with RHP and has a low OBP.
7. Over.
8. Over.
9. Over.
10. Over. I have 95 wins.
11. Over. This is the year.
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Old 02-18-2013, 10:11 AM   #7
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Re: Reds over/under

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1.Joey Votto homeruns- 29.5. Under
2.Aroldis Chapman IP- 150 Under
3.Johnny Cueto wins- 17.5 Under
4.Ryan Ludwick homeruns- 24.5 Under
5.Joey Votto RBIs- 109.5 Under
6.Todd Frazier homeruns- 19.5 Under
7.Jonathan Broxton saves- 29.5 Under
8.Choo OBP- .385 Under
9.Jay Bruce homeruns- 34.5 Under
10.Reds win total- 94.5 Under
11. Reds postseason wins- 2.5 Over!
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Old 02-18-2013, 10:26 AM   #8
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Re: Reds over/under

1.Joey Votto homeruns- 29.5 Over
2.Aroldis Chapman IP- 150 Under
3.Johnny Cueto wins- 17.5 Under
4.Ryan Ludwick homeruns- 24.5 Under
5.Joey Votto RBIs- 109.5 Under
6.Todd Frazier homeruns- 19.5 Over
7.Jonathan Broxton saves- 29.5 Over
8.Choo OBP- .385 Under
9.Jay Bruce homeruns- 34.5 Under
10.Reds win total- 94.5 Over
11. Reds postseason wins- 2.5 Over
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Old 02-18-2013, 10:30 AM   #9
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Re: Reds over/under

1.Joey Votto homeruns- 29.5. Over
2.Aroldis Chapman IP- 150 Under
3.Johnny Cueto wins- 17.5 Under
4.Ryan Ludwick homeruns- 24.5 Under
5.Joey Votto RBIs- 109.5 Over
6.Todd Frazier homeruns- 19.5 Over
7.Jonathan Broxton saves- 29.5 Over
8.Choo OBP- .385 Over
9.Jay Bruce homeruns- 34.5 Over
10.Reds win total- 94.5 Over
11. Reds postseason wins- 2.5 Over
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Old 02-18-2013, 10:36 AM   #10
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Re: Reds over/under

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1.Joey Votto homeruns- Under, but close
2.Aroldis Chapman IP- Under, I was thinking around 140 or so
3.Johnny Cueto wins- Over++, Tops 20. Around 22 I think.
4.Ryan Ludwick homeruns- Over, close though
5.Joey Votto RBIs- Over++, leads the league by a long margin
6.Todd Frazier homeruns- Over, close
7.Jonathan Broxton saves- Under, close again
8.Choo OBP- Under, .350 to .370 ish.
9.Jay Bruce homeruns- Over++, leads the league near 50.
10.Reds win total- Over++, tops 100, most wins in the bigs.
11. Reds postseason wins- Over++, WS title baby!
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Old 02-18-2013, 10:38 AM   #11
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Re: Reds over/under

1.Joey Votto homeruns- 29.5. Under
2.Aroldis Chapman IP- 150. Push
3.Johnny Cueto wins- 17.5. Over
4.Ryan Ludwick homeruns- 24.5. Over
5.Joey Votto RBIs- 109.5. Over
6.Todd Frazier homeruns- 19.5. Over
7.Jonathan Broxton saves- 29.5. Over
8.Choo OBP- .385. Over
9.Jay Bruce homeruns- 34.5. Under
10.Reds win total- 94.5. Over
11. Reds postseason wins- 2.5. Over
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Old 02-18-2013, 10:46 AM   #12
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Re: Reds over/under

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#	Player		Stat		Value	O/U	My guess	
1	Joey Votto 	Homeruns 	 29.5	OVER	 32
2	Aroldis Chapman IP		150.0	UNDER	140
3	Johnny Cueto 	wins		 17.5	UNDER	 16   	
4	Ryan Ludwick 	Homeruns	 24.5	UNDER	 20
5	Joey Votto 	RBIs		109.5	OVER	115
6	Todd Frazier 	Homeruns	 19.5	OVER	 22
7	Broxton		Saves		 29.5	UNDER	 25     
8	Choo 		OBP		 .385	UNDER	.375
9	Jay Bruce 	HR		 34.5	OVER	 36
10	Reds 		Win total	 94.5	UNDER	 90
11 	Reds 		Postseason wins	  2.5	OVER	  5
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Old 02-18-2013, 10:48 AM   #13
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Re: Reds over/under

Leave it to RMR to format it like a nerd. :O) I kid.
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Old 02-18-2013, 10:49 AM   #14
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Leave it to RMR to format it like a nerd. :O) I kid.
That's usually a safe bet...
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Hey, I just noticed the "like" button is gone. I was going to hit yours Rick. Odd.

Hmmm....after I refresh, it shows up after a few seconds. Strange.
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