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Old 02-19-2013, 04:58 PM   #736
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I see what you are saying AH, but I wouldn't go as far as to call it "flawed".

I think the only reason people thought Kentucky would be in the mix this season is because of how down overall college basketball has been this season. This team lacks something the previous team lacked and that is balance.
WV, your post sort of sumed up my "flawed" comment. Basically, UK's whole team is unproven. It aint just the freshmen, it also the guys on the bench. Dang hard to win with a team comprised like they are.

IMHO, Kentucky got a lot of hype coming into the year because of what they achieved last year. I saw a few polls that had the 'Cats #1 preseason.

You are dead on about the off-season for the 'Cats. It is going to be very interesting to see who jumps and who doesnt.
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WV, your post sort of sumed up my "flawed" comment. Basically, UK's whole team is unproven. It aint just the freshmen, it also the guys on the bench. Dang hard to win with a team comprised like they are.

IMHO, Kentucky got a lot of hype coming into the year because of what they achieved last year. I saw a few polls that had the 'Cats #1 preseason.

You are dead on about the off-season for the 'Cats. It is going to be very interesting to see who jumps and who doesnt.
The only reason UK got those preseason rankings is because the level of talent nationally is the weakest it's ever been. I said it then and I'll say it again; the preseason top three was the worst I've ever seen. It's actually turned out to be much worse than expected.
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As a rival fan, I applaud what Cal has been able to do up 'til this point. However alot of me thinks that his formula is flawed and this year proves it. I dont mean it in a bad way, I just dont think you can throw a bunch of unproven players on the floor and compete for a title year in and year out.
We've been serious contenders for a title three of four years. IU fans would kill for a four-year stretch like the one Cal's on at UK.
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Old 02-19-2013, 05:54 PM   #739
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I wonder how many NITs UL or IU fans would trade for locking up a guaranteed championship right now? 10?
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Old 02-19-2013, 06:13 PM   #740
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I heard one fella talking of whether NN should come back. He was speaking of there being a big gap between being a #1 pick and even the # 2 pick.
He didnt mention the numbers though. Does anyone know the dollar difference of say being a top pick as opposed to a second or third pick ?

Also I couldnt believe it when I seen Eric Daniels is still active in the D-League. That got me to wondering what exactly players make if they basically end up being in the D-League. Any ideas ?
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Old 02-19-2013, 06:45 PM   #741
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Around $50,000 per year.
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Old 02-19-2013, 07:19 PM   #742
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Around $50,000 per year.
It's actually a good bit less than that. A couple years ago the max salary was about 25k. 50 might be about the max now, but most guys are making less than that.

I know Daniels was also playing in Europe. Probably making a good bit more than he is in the D-League if he's in a top league in a major country.
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Old 02-19-2013, 07:25 PM   #743
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Also, according to what I could find, Davis signed for 3years/$16MM. Kidd-Gilchrist's contract is about $1MM less per year. I know the NBA has a pretty hard a fast pay scale for rookie contracts.
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Great comments fellas......check the ticker.
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I wonder how many NITs UL or IU fans would trade for locking up a guaranteed championship right now? 10?
Your day of reckoning has arrived. Keep talking smack when you are sucking on a rotten egg. Enjoy the NIT, I am sure you will be tuned in seeing as you are Cal Jr.
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It's actually a good bit less than that. A couple years ago the max salary was about 25k. 50 might be about the max now, but most guys are making less than that.

I know Daniels was also playing in Europe. Probably making a good bit more than he is in the D-League if he's in a top league in a major country.
Thanks for info. I wasnt sure how rookie salaries was running now.
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We've been serious contenders for a title three of four years. IU fans would kill for a four-year stretch like the one Cal's on at UK.
Well evidently the party is over. Welcome back to reality.
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Old 02-20-2013, 01:02 AM   #748
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Your day of reckoning has arrived. Keep talking smack when you are sucking on a rotten egg. Enjoy the NIT, I am sure you will be tuned in seeing as you are Cal Jr.
Our day of reckoning has arrived? I hope you were drunk when you made this post. It's a shame you can't handle posting in this thread without having these mini-meltdowns every few days.

I would consider not winning a ring since 1987 more of a rotten egg than going to the NIT after hanging banner #8.

I didn't talk any smack, I'm guessing most mature IU fans would trade 10 NITs for a guaranteed championship. If it doesn't happen this season, the diamond anniversary is right around the corner.

I'm starting to hope your team can avoid succumbing to the expectations of being #1 in the Tournament maybe it will make you and SOME of your IU brethren a bit less bitter and less obsessed with UK.

#1 in the country and still looking for validation from UK fans. Sort of sad.
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Noel is the classic case of someone who could use an extra year in college. He needs to get bigger, stronger, and develop more of an offensive game. IMO its much easier to do that at the college level than the Pro level. But when some NBA team is going to pay you millions to do that its hard to pass up.
Biggest misconception out there.

Practicing 20 hours a week while going to school =/= Basketball as a full-time job.

He will get better going to the pros than staying in college.
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The only reason UK got those preseason rankings is because the level of talent nationally is the weakest it's ever been. I said it then and I'll say it again; the preseason top three was the worst I've ever seen. It's actually turned out to be much worse than expected.
In the history of ever. Dont worry we all know this season doesnt really count, we'll get the asterisk in there.
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