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    Re: The Dunn haul..

    The Reds wouldn't want two more first round picks, because then they would have to pay them.

    This organization is smelly.

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    Re: The Dunn haul..

    maybe somehow we got Justin Upton. a man can dream
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    Re: The Dunn haul..

    Quote Originally Posted by BuckeyeRedleg View Post
    The Reds wouldn't want two more first round picks, because then they would have to pay them.

    This organization is smelly.
    agreed. Stupid stupid move by the Reds.
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    Re: The Dunn haul..

    Quote Originally Posted by JayBruce32 View Post
    agreed. Stupid stupid move by the Reds.
    Come on dude move on for crying out loud.
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    Re: The Dunn haul..

    A closer look at Dallas Buck
    Prospect from Dunn deal likely headed to Class A Sarasota
    By Kevin T. Czerwinski / MLB.com

    Dallas Buck is a perfect example of how college coaches abuse their charges in order to win. He helped Oregon State to a College World Series crown in 2006 as head coach Pat Casey kept sending him out to the mound despite knowing he was hurt.

    But Buck is a gutsy kid. The right-hander kept taking the ball and never complained. Now, the folks in Cincinnati will benefit from that "win at all costs" attitude. That's because the Reds acquired Buck on Monday along with a pair of players to be named later in a deal that sent slugger Adam Dunn to Arizona.

    Buck, whom the Diamondbacks selected in the third round of the 2006 First-Year Player Draft, won his collegiate title, but ultimately it proved to be a setback in his professional career. He had been considered by many to be a potential first-rounder, but when the injury became common knowledge, he slid to the third round.

    Buck, known for his ability to tolerate pain and his gritty performances, eventually succumbed to the right elbow injury he suffered at OSU, undergoing Tommy John elbow reconstruction surgery last August. He was 4-4 with a 3.41 ERA in 14 starts for Class A Visalia at the time, after having sat out the 2006 season in hopes that his elbow would heal.

    Buck, who was 28-10 in three seasons at Oregon State, returned to action this June. He appeared in nine games (eight starts) for South Bend of the Class A Midwest League before getting bumped back up to Visalia. He made his lone start for the Oaks last week and lost despite not allowing an earned run in five innings to San Jose. Overall, he is 1-5 with a 3.55 ERA in 50 2/3 innings this season.

    How long it takes Buck to regain the low- to mid-90s speed he consistently had on his fastball prior to the injury remains to be seen. He was still throwing in the high 80s last summer while hurt. Buck has a nice slider and changeup that didn't appear to be too affected by the injury. He will likely head to Sarasota of the Class A Florida State League.

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    FWIW Daugherty let slip it will be 3 pitchers and everyone is reporting that one of the names is a recognizable name which is Micah Owings IMHO.

    So It's likely Owings/Buck and 1 of several different names. Here's the list which I have already put on the ORG Dunn post.

    Esmerling Vasquez RHSP
    Jailen Peguero RHRP
    Juan Gutierrez RHRP
    Emiliano Fruto RHRP

    I put that in order of interest to me although admittedly Peguero is older than Vasquez he looks to have a better game at least currently. Although Vasquez is a starter and Peguero is a reliever. An interesting note to these guys is that Vasquez and Peguero keep the ball in the park much better than does the other 2 and that's likely the key to the deal. So I think it's between those 2 a 24 year old starter or a 27 year old reliever. My money is on Vasquez even though he doesn't seem as dominant as Peguero.
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    Re: The Dunn haul..

    Owings, Buck, Whitesell?

    Votto to LF, Whitesell to 1b? Whitesell is not in the lineup tonight for the AAA Dbacks.

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    Re: The Dunn haul..

    the only position player I like is D' Antona

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    Re: The Dunn haul..

    Why are we not naming the other prospects if they already know who they are?

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    Re: The Dunn haul..

    Quote Originally Posted by sammonator View Post
    Owings, Buck, Whitesell?

    Votto to LF, Whitesell to 1b? Whitesell is not in the lineup tonight for the AAA Dbacks.
    Ahh, really. It turns out that I was unintentionally mislead about the fact that we dealt him for 3 pitchers. It was an assumption on another posters part that Daugherty meant exactly what he said, Fuggetabouit!

    Whitesell intrigues me his #'s are awesome especially this season. But I just can't figure out how a guy like that get's waived by the Nats or anyone for that matter. Is he the Tonys Gutierrez or Chris Dickerson of their organization? Can do well in the minors but seemingly doesn't have the pure talent to make it in the bigs? The guy is 26 for the love of pete (not that pete, I no longer love that pete).
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    Re: The Dunn haul..

    you have to also realize that Tuscon and the PCL inflate offensive production.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyer85 View Post
    the only position player I like is D' Antona
    Why is that he and Whitesell compare pretty favorably to one another except Whitesell seems to have displayed more power and discipline and D'Antona a better BA over the years? And they both are the same age and both had their roughest offensive seasons going in to AA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mario-Rijo View Post
    Why is that he and Whitesell compare pretty favorably to one another except Whitesell seems to have displayed more power and discipline and D'Antona a better BA over the years? And they both are the same age and both had their roughest offensive seasons going in to AA.
    Whitesell is another LH hitter tied to 1b. D' Antona is a RH hitter with good power and has some positional flexibility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyer85 View Post
    Whitesell is another LH hitter tied to 1b. D' Antona is a RH hitter with good power and has some positional flexibility.
    I don't mind the LH-ness now with Dunn and Jr gone only Votto and Bruce are LH. That said D' Antona we know won't be coming back in this deal, so I think it's Whitesell or Brito who just made the jump to AAA recently. Assuming of course we even get an offensive player back. I suppose it could be Chad Tracy but I don't know how I feel about that he seems to have too many injury issues the last couple of seasons.
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    Hopefully Micah Owings is indeed one of the two PTBNL. I like his size and stuff. He pitched well as a rookie for the DBacks last season and I think he can return to being that kind of pitcher. He'll never be an ace but he's got the talent to be a 200 inning 4.00 ERA type of pitcher IMO. In addition to his pitching his bat is also a plus considering he's a pitcher. As for the second PTBNL, if it's a position guy Whitesell is my choice over Castillo and Brito. If it's a pitcher then Jailen Peguero or Esmerling Vasquez would be my choice. I was doing some reading up on both...apparently Peguero throws in the low 90's and has a swing-and-miss slider which is considered an above average pitch. He's already 27 but may turn into a decent reliever. Vasquez is 24 years old and is having an awful season in AAA but last year he posted a 2.99 ERA and a 60 BB/151 K ratio in 165.1 innings in AA while allowing only 125 hits. He's got a fastball that touches 95 mph and his changeup is rated the best in the Arizona system according to BA.

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