Newsflash!
Joey Votto does not care about RBI.
NEITHER SHOULD ANY OF US
AtomicDumpling (04-08-2013)
Newsflash!
Joey Votto does not care about RBI.
NEITHER SHOULD ANY OF US
Main point I see is this.
Reds are a good team with a deep bullpen. If Dusty feels that he needs the big three on a given day, and wants to rest them all the next day, he still can win.
Today was a tight, come from behind victory, despite the final score. Reds hung in with Lecure and Simon before they went ahead.
So no tragedy that his big three were "unavailable." He had enough bullpen left. He has the flexibility to make the decision he made Sunday.
[Phil ] Castellini celebrated the team's farm system and noted the team had promising prospects who would one day be great Reds -- and then joke then they'd be ex-Reds, saying "of course we're going to lose them". #SellTheTeamBob
Nov. 13, 2007: One of the greatest days in Reds history: John Allen gets the boot!
Very poor analogy.
Dusty's choice was to use Chapman on Sunday for a save (albeit a 3 run save) or not use Chapman "just in case" there was a higher leverage situation on Monday.
Think about it.. in a normal year, a good closer gets about 40 saves.. That's roughly 1 in 4 games. I could make the argument that on any given game, it's more likely there's not a save situation for the Reds than there is.
Also, Broxton was available. The media was ASSUMING he wasn't. Looks like Dusty preferred to rest Brox and Chapman, but was willing to use them if he had to.
No offense, but this happens a lot on this board. Someone on the Reds is second guessed for a decision. It all works out fine, and people still cling to a flawed blackjack example to justify themselves. I can understand when you made your post, it was based on incorrect information (the false report that Brox was unavailable).. however, that doesn't change the fact that Dusty did make the right decision.
[Phil ] Castellini celebrated the team's farm system and noted the team had promising prospects who would one day be great Reds -- and then joke then they'd be ex-Reds, saying "of course we're going to lose them". #SellTheTeamBob
Nov. 13, 2007: One of the greatest days in Reds history: John Allen gets the boot!
And its a very human thing to want to win an argument and that seems to be exacerbated on internet bulletin boards.
Make your point and make sure its clear. Plant the seed and then walk away.
She used to wake me up with coffee ever morning
God forbid Dusty get the same amount of positive credit for the Paul pinch-hit decision today. Better yet, shouldn't he get a whole thread dedicated to it, patting him on the back?
No comment on bullpen tactics but this concern about bullpen management:
Only six games into the season, going into your first series in St. Louis, biggest division rival, and you say you need your starter to go deep because the bullpen is depleted.
Bad planning.
Last edited by HUHUH; 04-09-2013 at 02:00 PM.
Huh? Huh-uh. Oh yeah, uh-huh.
The starters have gone 6 innings plus each game. Dusty didn't plan on every game being close save one, and that 16 inning game.
You'll note that the bullpen will get over taxed a number of times during the season. It happens.
The Cards bullpen is also overtaxed right now. And it shows.
And by going deep Dusty meant he needed 6 innings from him.
Kc61 (04-09-2013)
I like to keep that stuff in the game thread myself.
But at the time I wrote that, and it had been awhile since the game ended, it was telling the amount of recognition that move got.
It was by no means an automatic decision to make, despite the logic behind it. And using Brox and Chap on Sunday, while I would not have done so, was not a rip-worthy move.
Hey, look on the brightside. These guys should be well rested now!!!
The Reds have played 109 innings this season. Aroldis Chapman, one of the most talented pitchers to ever throw a baseball, has pitched 5.1 innings. One of those innings came in a 6-3 game in the 9th, while another 0.1 of those innings was in a 10-6 loss. Could the Reds be wasting his talent anymore than they are?
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