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Thread: Reds acquire Shin-Soo Choo and Jason Donald for Drew Stubbs and Didi Gregorious

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    Re: Shin-soo Choo?

    If I had to choose between Cozart and Didi, I'd probably choose the latter. Younger, and better defensively.


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    Re: Shin-soo Choo?

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Might be a mistake. 27 years old. Career .290 MLB OBP.
    I don't mind it that much if he plays solid D and bats 8th.
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    Re: Shin-soo Choo?

    The stakes rise on 2013. Hopefully this new version of the BRM doesn't have their 1971 right after 2012's 1970.

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    Re: Shin-soo Choo?

    Quote Originally Posted by mattfeet View Post
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    Cincy... You're not gonna find two better teammates then the ones you just traded for. #choo #donald
    Nice. Always good to hear.

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    Re: Shin-soo Choo?

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Said it before and I will say it again.... they really don't. Plenty of teams and people out there really like that kid.
    I don't read any of the reporters' comments from scouts as being all that glowing. Certainly none of them think it's justifiable trading Bauer for him.
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    Re: Shin-soo Choo?

    I love getting Choo in a contract year too. You think he won't be motivated to put up the best numbers possible?

    This just keeps getting better. Donald is a hell of a "throw-in" too. (Not that Jocketty views him as a throw-in, hence the quotes.)

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    Re: Shin-soo Choo?

    Cozart had over 30 doubles. Decent home run power. Great defense. Maybe he'll never get on base at a great clip, but I would say he's an above average shortstop. May Didi be better than him? It's possible. But is he likely to be so much better that we rue the day we made this trade? I highly doubt that. LOVE this trade so much. I don't even care about the downgrade in center defensively. We see the Cards sacrifice D for offense all the time, and more often than not, it's worked for them.

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    Re: Shin-soo Choo?

    Stubbs is so overrated defensively that it's not even funny.

    No, actually it is kind of amusing.

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    Didi Gregorius was going to be No. 5 on Reds' BA Top 10 prospects list. VG defensively, great arm. Good athlete. ? are how good bat will be
    Hamilton, Cingrani, Corcino, Stephenson?

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    Re: Shin-soo Choo?

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Might be a mistake. 27 years old. Career .290 MLB OBP.
    Career consisting of one season. Give him a chance. Besides, he can still pick it at short and that's the main part of his job description. That OBP won't look quite so troublesome with it out of the 1 & 2 hole.

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    Re: Shin-soo Choo?

    Quote Originally Posted by M2 View Post
    Well, he might be torn between using Gary Roenicke or Merv Rettenmund to do it.
    Depends on the data on the cards, right?

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    Re: Shin-soo Choo?

    Quote Originally Posted by cinreds21 View Post
    Hamilton, Cingrani, Corcino, Stephenson?
    Yessir, I would think so.

    How about that? Didn't even have to give up one of our top-4 prospects in this deal. Complete win by Walter Jocketty.

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    Re: Shin-soo Choo?

    Nice move!

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    Re: Shin-soo Choo?

    Quote Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_ View Post
    Career consisting of one season. Give him a chance. Besides, he can still pick it at short and that's the main part of his job description. That OBP won't look quite so troublesome with it out of the 1 & 2 hole.
    At his age, there isn't likely room for big improvements. You pretty much are what you are at age 27.

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    Re: Shin-soo Choo?

    No wonder Bowden loves this deal- it's exactly one that he would have made, with trading for a bat and plugging him into a position he has seldom played.

    I really love the idea of Choo leading off; not sure at all he can play CF. That leaves the Reds OF with: Choo, Bruce, Ludwick, Heisey and Paul. Does Heisey get traded away for a guy who is better defensively in CF? Paul played corner spots last year, if I recall.

    This team played some great defensive baseball last year, both pitching and with the glove. I think this years team scores more but maybe gives up more, as well.
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