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    Cubs fire hitting coach Gerald Perry in hopes of ending slump

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    Re: Cubs fire hitting coach Gerald Perry in hopes of ending slump

    You can only lead the horse to the pond. You can't make him drink

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    Re: Cubs fire hitting coach Gerald Perry in hopes of ending slump

    Has he been the hitting coach for 101 years?

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    Re: Cubs fire hitting coach Gerald Perry in hopes of ending slump

    Quote Originally Posted by Degenerate39 View Post
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    At least they have the guts to do it. The Reds would be hard pressed to try a new "approach". They would rather their new franchise player whittle away and the rest of the team follow suit.
    It's absolutely pathetic that people can't have an opinion from actually watching games and supplementing that with stats. If you voice an opinion that doesn't fit into a black/white box you will get completely misrepresented and basically called a tobacco chewing traditionalist...
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    Re: Cubs fire hitting coach Gerald Perry in hopes of ending slump

    Honestly, it is a need of more good hitters for the Reds. You could bring in a hitting guru for the Reds and he is not going to suddenly make all the average and below average hitters productive major league bats.

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    Re: Cubs fire hitting coach Gerald Perry in hopes of ending slump

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    Honestly, it is a need of more good hitters for the Reds. You could bring in a hitting guru for the Reds and he is not going to suddenly make all the average and below average hitters productive major league bats.
    But the Team is hitting below .200 over the last 10 days and hardly above .200 over the last 30 days. I would settle for avg. or just below avg. not horrible like they are now. It would be a little different if they were doing the little things at the plate. Like taking the 3-0 pitch or when a pitcher known for being wild not swing at the 1st pitch. Getting a bunt down. Sac. fly when needed or going the other way, hitting behind runners to advance them. But the Reds just keep failing at the plate in all areas. This wasn't there last year and with a different lineup this year it is still not there.

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    But the Team is hitting below .200 over the last 10 days and hardly above .200 over the last 30 days. I would settle for avg. or just below avg. not horrible like they are now. It would be a little different if they were doing the little things at the plate. Like taking the 3-0 pitch or when a pitcher known for being wild not swing at the 1st pitch. Getting a bunt down. Sac. fly when needed or going the other way, hitting behind runners to advance them. But the Reds just keep failing at the plate in all areas. This wasn't there last year and with a different lineup this year it is still not there.
    They are doing lots of little things at the plate--weak grounders, bat handle popups. Seriously, if that is all that is wrong, that is stuff that a novice can notice and point out. We are talking about an insufficient number of good major league hitters, exacerbated by a slump. I honestly don't know if Jacoby is a good hitting coach or not, but this is the flip side of the problem when Gully was here--blaming the coach for a lack of talent.

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    Re: Cubs fire hitting coach Gerald Perry in hopes of ending slump

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    At least they have the guts to do it. The Reds would be hard pressed to try a new "approach". They would rather their new franchise player whittle away and the rest of the team follow suit.
    I guess you are speaking of Bruce, but Votto is the face of the franchise, I think. Really, Dusty Baker is, but your point is that you think Jacoby should be fired. From all I can see, Baker is the hitting coach.
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    I guess you are speaking of Bruce, but Votto is the face of the franchise, I think. Really, Dusty Baker is, but your point is that you think Jacoby should be fired. From all I can see, Baker is the hitting coach.
    Could be true Bruce vs. Votto. Good point.

    I agree that Baker has his hands in the hitting camp. Most managers that were decent hitters usually lend their 2 cents. It's not the averages, OPS, OBP, etc... that bother me. It's the sense that this team has no approach. The young hitters appear to have no plan at the plate or know what their responsibilities are in a given situation. This is where a COACH comes into the picture. Guidance. This team is misguided. It's not just Jacoby but he's the sore thumb. JMO.
    It's absolutely pathetic that people can't have an opinion from actually watching games and supplementing that with stats. If you voice an opinion that doesn't fit into a black/white box you will get completely misrepresented and basically called a tobacco chewing traditionalist...
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    Re: Cubs fire hitting coach Gerald Perry in hopes of ending slump

    Is it unreasonable to suggest that Jacoby was brought in because of his past success with Dunn in the minors? I know that's fairly narrow, but I don't ever get a sense that Brook Jacoby is ever doing anything. If this was the case (and I certainly understand I could be wrong and misreading the situation), maybe it is time to get a new batting coach.
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    Re: Cubs fire hitting coach Gerald Perry in hopes of ending slump

    Quote Originally Posted by Team Clark View Post
    Could be true Bruce vs. Votto. Good point.

    I agree that Baker has his hands in the hitting camp. Most managers that were decent hitters usually lend their 2 cents. It's not the averages, OPS, OBP, etc... that bother me. It's the sense that this team has no approach. The young hitters appear to have no plan at the plate or know what their responsibilities are in a given situation. This is where a COACH comes into the picture. Guidance. This team is misguided. It's not just Jacoby but he's the sore thumb. JMO.
    Hmmm, young hitters--Dickerson, Votto, Hanigan, Bruce, Janish. The only one who has struggled with approach is the youngest, Bruce. That could be execution as much as not properly instructed. I'm not seeing that as a valid reason. Like I said, I don't know if Jacoby is good or not, but I do not agree with that reasoning.

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    Re: Cubs fire hitting coach Gerald Perry in hopes of ending slump

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    Hmmm, young hitters--Dickerson, Votto, Hanigan, Bruce, Janish. The only one who has struggled with approach is the youngest, Bruce. That could be execution as much as not properly instructed. I'm not seeing that as a valid reason. Like I said, I don't know if Jacoby is good or not, but I do not agree with that reasoning.
    Young hitters need the most help. Quite frankly, I don't see where they are getting it.
    It's absolutely pathetic that people can't have an opinion from actually watching games and supplementing that with stats. If you voice an opinion that doesn't fit into a black/white box you will get completely misrepresented and basically called a tobacco chewing traditionalist...
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    Re: Cubs fire hitting coach Gerald Perry in hopes of ending slump

    I don't know Brook Jacoby should or should not be fired. I thought he should have been fired last year, but I actually think he is doing a better job this year than last. Personally, I don't think that Chris Chambliss ever should have been let go.

    However, if Jacoby is fired, who would take his place? One name has popped into my head as a possible wild card: Kevin Mitchell. I don't know if he would be interested in the job, and I don't know if the Reds would be interested in him, but I know one thing--Mitch was born to hit. I'm sure he could teach the kids something about mental approach.
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    Re: Cubs fire hitting coach Gerald Perry in hopes of ending slump

    Quote Originally Posted by Big Klu View Post
    However, if Jacoby is fired, who would take his place? One name has popped into my head as a possible wild card: Kevin Mitchell. I don't know if he would be interested in the job, and I don't know if the Reds would be interested in him, but I know one thing--Mitch was born to hit. I'm sure he could teach the kids something about mental approach.
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