Votto
Chapman
Hamilton
Bruce
Stephenson
Votto
Chapman
Hamilton
Bruce
Stephenson
Conversation stops when these guys are mentioned:
Votto
Bruce
Latos
I'd have to be blown away:
Chapman
Hamilton
Bailey
Cueto
For those mentioning guys in the low minors...there is no one below AAA who should ever be considered untouchable. Just my opinion.
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If the Angels called up talking Mike Trout, everyone is on the table.Originally Posted by Dan
With the minors, generally speaking, I am with you. There haven't been too many "untouchables". Stephenson is one of them. You see an arm like his come through your organization once every 10-20 years.
I don't get it. Stephenson wasn't unhittable or anything like it.If the Angels called up talking Mike Trout, everyone is on the table.
With the minors, generally speaking, I am with you. There haven't been too many "untouchables". Stephenson is one of them. You see an arm like his come through your organization once every 10-20 years.
What makes him so "untouchable"?
I wouldn't have even had him on my list. I guess I'm missing the boat on him. I'll pay more attention to him this season.
Hardly anyone at age 19, is unhittable. But, guys don't come around often who throw consistent 94-98, touch 101, have a hammer curveball and a good change up. There is work to do still. His control had some times where he struggled with it. But the stuff, even it the present, is incredibly good. He is probably the best pitching prospect since Bailey was the #1 or #2 starter in the minor leagues back in 2007, and I like his profile at this point better than the one Bailey had. Bailey just had more experience at the time. Stuff wise, Stephenson is better now than Bailey was then.
Votto
Latos
Bruce
Hamilton
Chapman
Latos
Chapman
Stephenson
Bailey
If I had to pick a 5th, it'd be Cingrani or Corcino.
No Votto. In today's game of baseball, no hitter should be an untouchable. If the Cardinals can lose Albert Pujols and not miss a beat offensively, then you can find ways to deal with losing any bat if you make the right moves. Give me a power rotation and you can make anything work.
1.Votto-no way hes going anywhere. probably will retire a Red and also is my pick for the face of the franchise.
2.Latos-Need to lock him up for a few more years. Probably will be the ace of this staff someday. In a way he reminds me of a young Roger Clemens minus the splitter.
3.Hamilton-no way he goes anywhere until they get a good look at how he performs in the big leagues.
everyone else would be available for the right price IMO
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The way you describe him Doug Stephenson sounds like Verlander Jr. Not that he his already, but that he's got that sort upside.
Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.
As has been stated before, there are no untouchables. These guys are my 5 least "touchable."
Votto
Chapman
[huge chasm]
Bruce
Cueto
Latos
Stick to your guns.
Honestly, no one is untouchable.
But for the most part......
Votto
Hamilton
Hanigan
Chapman
Phillips
I basically agree on these three:
Votto - as Doug says, Mike Trout is basically the only return I'd consider.
Chapman - his potential upside far outweighs anything you could get in return
Hamilton - I think he's still got to be available, but only for some maximal return as well
Have to say I don't really understand why either of those guys are on your list. Don't get me wrong -- they are valuable contributors -- but my understanding of "untouchable" is that these are guys Walt isn't even listening to offers on.
BP - if someone comes offering valuable assets in return for an aging 2B with a large contract, I think you certainly listen.
Hanigan - he has been a wonderful receiver for this staff, but definitely replaceable, and certainly not a name I take off the table in negotiations.
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1. Votto
2. Cueto (some of the comments in this thread about the Reds' ace pitcher are hilarious)
3. Bruce
4. Chapman
5. Latos
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