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    7/17/2012 Reds vs Snakes

    Here's the lineup for tonight. I guess we should be breaking up the rightys but we have no leftys to break them up with. No Bruce tonight. I wonder why?

    1. Drew Stubbs (R) CF
    2. Zack Cozart (R) SS
    3. Brandon Phillips (R) 2B
    4. Ryan Ludwick (R) LF
    5. Scott Rolen (R) 3B
    6. Todd Frazier (R) 1B
    7. Chris Heisey (R) RF
    8. Ryan Hanigan (R) C
    9. Johnny Cueto (R) P
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    Re: 7/17/2012 Reds vs Snakes

    So Bruce plays vs the lefty and sits vs the righty? What?

    And Ludwick, who kills lefties, sits vs the lefty and plays vs. the right.
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    Re: 7/17/2012 Reds vs Snakes

    Dusty is just proving his point to Walt. This roster blows chunks.

    Of course, they probably go out and score a dozen tonight. This Bauer guy should get rocked, considering his horrible splits against lefties...oh, wait.

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    Re: 7/17/2012 Reds vs Snakes

    This might be another scheduled day off for Bruce. Then find out he broke his leg last night.
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    Re: 7/17/2012 Reds vs Snakes

    Quote Originally Posted by reds44 View Post
    So Bruce plays vs the lefty and sits vs the righty? What?

    And Ludwick, who kills lefties, sits vs the lefty and plays vs. the right.
    Yeah, seems pretty odd. Guessing that Votto and Bruce were scheduled for off days on Monday and Tuesday post-all star game. Dusty wasn't resting them against division rival Cards this past weekend.

    Reds face a lefty on Thursday afternoon, would seem like a better time to rest Bruce. Although Jay is hitting like he needs a month off, not a day.

    This relief pitcher Brad Ziegler for DBacks had better be ready. He is a righty sidewinder who is murder on righty hitters. Guy could pitch 15 innings this week against the Rightyreds.
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    Re: 7/17/2012 Reds vs Snakes

    Why wouldn't you have just sat Bruce last night and played Ludwick?
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    Re: 7/17/2012 Reds vs Snakes

    Quote Originally Posted by reds44 View Post
    Why wouldn't you have just sat Bruce last night and played Ludwick?
    Probably because yesterday was Votto's turn to get a night off, scheduled before the knee surgery thing.

    So if both are healthy he wants Votto or Bruce in the lineup. Doesn't rest his two all stars at the same time. (Now it's a bit different with Votto out for several weeks.)

    I do agree though that I was very surprised Ludwick didn't start last night. I was surprised Heisey played.

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    Re: 7/17/2012 Reds vs Snakes

    And the day has finally arrived. Zero lefty's in the lineup against a RHP.

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    Last edited by Redsfan320; 07-17-2012 at 03:21 PM. Reason: OOPS! Meant to say lefty's not righty's, obviously. Somehow Kc61 made an entire reply without noting the wrongness.
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    Re: 7/17/2012 Reds vs Snakes

    Quote Originally Posted by Redsfan320 View Post
    And the day has finally arrived. Zero righty's in the lineup against a RHP.

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    Very small sample, only a few innings, but this Bauer pitcher tonight was tattooed by lefty hitting so far. 8.64 ERA against them (however one figures out an ERA against lefties alone).

    No great shakes against righties either, 1.60 WHIP, but no earned runs allowed against them.

    Very small sample at the big league level.

    Was pretty dominant in the minors in 2011 (116 Ks in 93 innings) and did well at AA this year, then was 4-0 in AAA with a 2.82 ERA before call up to Arizona.

    Lifetime minor league strikeout rate of 12.1 with 4.6 BB/9.

    Guy misses bats. At least in the minors.
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    Re: 7/17/2012 Reds vs Snakes

    Rolen hitting in front of Frazier, heh?
    “I don’t care,” Votto said of passing his friend and former teammate. “He’s in the past. Bye-bye, Jay.”

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    Re: 7/17/2012 Reds vs Snakes

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Servo View Post
    Rolen hitting in front of Frazier, heh?
    I would say that's the least of our problems with no lefties and our no OBP tablesetters.

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    Re: 7/17/2012 Reds vs Snakes

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    Lineup by OBP. Yikes.
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    Re: 7/17/2012 Reds vs Snakes

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    Very small sample, only a few innings, but this Bauer pitcher tonight was tattooed by lefty hitting so far. 8.64 ERA against them (however one figures out an ERA against lefties alone).
    I was wondering that too. How do you figure an ERA against only lefties or righties?

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    Re: 7/17/2012 Reds vs Snakes

    Quote Originally Posted by OesterPoster View Post
    Dusty is just proving his point to Walt. This roster blows chunks.
    Or he's confirming in Walt's mind what he may have already suspected re: Dusty's ability to construct a lineup.

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    Re: 7/17/2012 Reds vs Snakes

    Quote Originally Posted by reds44 View Post
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    Lineup by OBP. Yikes.
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    There...lineup by BAbip. Some guys are really due to hit...right?


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