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    will arthur hold up?

    He is on pace to pitch well over 70 innings. He hasn't pitched more than 60 in a season since 2002.

    Can he stay healthy at the current pace?


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    Re: will arthur hold up?

    The Reds are dead in the water if he can't.

    Right now, he's the only thing holding that "bullpen" together.
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    Re: will arthur hold up?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Operator View Post
    The Reds are dead in the water if he can't.

    Right now, he's the only thing holding that "bullpen" together.
    seems pretty obvious the bullpen is in shambles even with Arthur. Not sure that Walt can wait any longer to address the problem.

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    Re: will arthur hold up?

    I agree. It's a wonder that The Reds have been able to win this many games with a bullpen that so consistently tries, and often succeeds at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

    Something has to be done. You can't trot out 7.00 ERA guy after 7.00 ERA guy from the bullpen and win a division. Not only that, but in the playoffs... He who has the deepest bullpen is king.
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    Re: will arthur hold up?

    If I were a betting man, I'd say he either gets injured or loses effectiveness in a serious way.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: will arthur hold up?

    Quote Originally Posted by flyer85 View Post
    Can he stay healthy at the current pace?
    Kind of a moot question since he's not healthy now.

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    Re: will arthur hold up?

    There are a lot of bullpen guys around this league available. A lot of solid guys. Walt will get something done, I'd have to think. This is an easy area to improve the team. Easier to get then a top tier bat or a #1 or #2 starter this time of year.

    You add an Octavio Dotel, a Kevin Gregg, and a Jerry Mejia (Mets) to Rhodes, Coco, Del Rosario and whoever deserves to stay that's there now, this looks like a different team.
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    Re: will arthur hold up?

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    If I were a betting man, I'd say he either gets injured or loses effectiveness in a serious way.
    True.

    He cannot hold up, at this rate.

    This is a combination of a worse than expected bullpen, and Dusty needing to win to save his job, IMO.

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    Re: will arthur hold up?

    Even if he stays healthy, he's not going to be this effective all year long - a 0.30 ERA is not reasonable, so the question is when he starts to struggle, how quickly will it start and how bad will it get? Will he just blow up all of a sudden?

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    Re: will arthur hold up?

    Quote Originally Posted by Always Red View Post
    True.

    He cannot hold up, at this rate.

    This is a combination of a worse than expected bullpen, and Dusty needing to win to save his job, IMO.
    That's a very good point.

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    Re: will arthur hold up?

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    If I were a betting man, I'd say he either gets injured or loses effectiveness in a serious way.
    I thought this from the start of last season. I thought he was cooked when the Reds signed him. He has defied me for about 1.5 years now, I hope he does it for another few months.

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    Re: will arthur hold up?

    Hopefully Bill Bray is healthy and ready to help soon. In 2008 Bray worked 63 games as a Red with a 2.45 era from the left side.


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