I don't know, I don't think it's a good idea, but it's just about the only thing known to be available in a trade at this time that the Dodgers might reasonably think would be worth it.Originally Posted by Krusty
I don't know, I don't think it's a good idea, but it's just about the only thing known to be available in a trade at this time that the Dodgers might reasonably think would be worth it.
"Reality tells us there are no guarantees. Except that some day Jon Lester will be on that list of 100-game winners." - Peter Gammons
Martin wearing out welcome in L.A.?
The Dodgers were disappointed by the regression of catcher Russell Martin, who in the words of one Dodgers-connected person was "just another catcher'' this year. Only a year ago Martin was an excellent two-way player who won a Gold Glove and a Silver Slugger and appeared on the verge of superstardom. The New York Post reported that the Dodgers might even consider trading him.
Martin, Matt Kemp and to a lesser degree Andre Ethier still need to do some growing up, people familiar with the Dodgers say -- though the overall performance of the talented trio improved once Ramirez joined the team. James Loney, the fourth young Dodger stud, is said by team officials not to have been infested by the same maturity malady that has affected the others.
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Get'er done Walt. Make it happen.
The Dodgers, frankly, have blinders on concerning age.
"This isn’t stats vs scouts - this is stats and scouts working together, building an organization that blends the best of both worlds. This is the blueprint for how a baseball organization should be run. And, whether the baseball men of the 20th century like it or not, this is where baseball is going."---Dave Cameron, U.S.S. Mariner
Malady, schmalady. If the Dodgers want to let Martin go I'll take him everyday and twice on Sundays.
(You people are old enough to remember Sunday double-headers, right!?!
OK, didn't think so with the bulk of this board. My bad.
Rem
Last edited by remdog; 10-25-2008 at 05:00 PM.
That's where you go to the morning AND evening service right?Malady, schmalady. If the Dodgers want to let Martin go I'll take him everyday and twice on Sundays.
(You people are old enough to remember Sunday double-headers, right!?!
OK, didn't think so with the bulk of this board.
Rem
"This isn’t stats vs scouts - this is stats and scouts working together, building an organization that blends the best of both worlds. This is the blueprint for how a baseball organization should be run. And, whether the baseball men of the 20th century like it or not, this is where baseball is going."---Dave Cameron, U.S.S. Mariner
One can only hope their blinders are actually that, well, blinding.
"Reality tells us there are no guarantees. Except that some day Jon Lester will be on that list of 100-game winners." - Peter Gammons
Seriously, if that article is true, we have to get on the horn with LA immediately and ask about Kemp and Martin. Arroyo and Phillips are grizzled vets. How about
Arroyo, Phillips, Gonzalez and some fodder for Martin, Kemp, Jones or Pierre (even out money a little) and Yu (think that is SS name) ?
Thanks for illustrating my point.
Rem
2. Russell Martin. Some Dodger officials have spread the word that Martin will either be traded or moved to third base, with a Jason Varitek signing a possibility. Whether or not it actually happens will be interesting to see, but teams looking for catching, like the Red Sox, will do a headfirst dive to get in on Martin, who turns 26 in February.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/...=gammons_peter
wow!! this would be awesome... what would the dodgers ask in return? Anyone know what their need areas are? Martin & Kemp would be quite blockbuster for us :-)
Why in the hell would the Dodgers want to sign Jason Varitek?
Ned Colletti is fascinated with veterans.Why in the hell would the Dodgers want to sign Jason Varitek?
The devil is in the details (i.e. like who they had to give up), but if the only significant thing the Reds did this off season was acquire Martin, it would be tough to characterize their winter as a failure.
"This isn’t stats vs scouts - this is stats and scouts working together, building an organization that blends the best of both worlds. This is the blueprint for how a baseball organization should be run. And, whether the baseball men of the 20th century like it or not, this is where baseball is going."---Dave Cameron, U.S.S. Mariner
2B and 3B and depending on what they do in FA some pitching. I happen to think we could have an edge here. BP would likely be a guy well suited for this deal. Catcher's are too difficult to come by not to go out of your way to get one of his caliber. A combination of giving LA what they need to some extent and taking away something need to get rid of (Jones) might compel them to trade him off to us.
This is where we have the edge over a Boston who isn't likely to trade Pedroia and wouldn't have a need/spot ava. to take on Andruw Jones. Perhaps the following deal would make some sense.
BP
Bray
Freel
Martin
Hu
Jones
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