Why did you vote the way you did?
Why did you vote the way you did?
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Define over-rated? I think they're really good, but I don't think we really know just how good they are at this point. LSU is the team that was massively over-rated. We may not learn until they play Alabama as the SEC as a whole is way down this year vs where it's been over the past 5 years, but Alabama is still a legit excellent team (maybe the only other really good team in the conference this year).
Cam Newton is easily the Heisman winner, but without him I think they're very average. There just isn't any truly great teams in college football this year. Hell, I truly believe Boise State can play with anyone at this point... same for TCU.
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Because there are no great teams this year, and they've got as good a case as anyone to be where they're at, I voted 'no.'
That said, I do think their defense is borderline awful, and not championship material. I think they'll lose to Alabama, if not another game or so in between.
"No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." ~Tommy Lasorda
They don't have a Defense but then neither does Oregon, a title game with those 2 will have 120 points scored.
Go Gators!
I tend to agree with this.Originally Posted by Brutus the Pimp
They're pretty good. Fun to watch. So is Oregon. I still think the best roster, overall, belongs to Alabama.
Quite honestly, I hope Auburn runs the table and thumps Bama.
Cam Newton is a transcendent college football player.
When all is said and done more is said than done.
I think they deserve to be #1 right now, but I still don't fully buy them. Every remotely tough game they've had has been at home, and they struggled to beat UK and Miss St on the road. Can't decide if they are great, or a product of simply protecting home field. So I guess...no, they aren't overrated, but I'm also not sure they are truly among the best in the country. Game at Bama may be for a spot in the national title game, assuming both win out until then.
They're no more overrated than any other team out there, IMO. Given the events of the season so far, they should be #1.
All models are wrong. Some of them are useful.
I've been impressed with both Auburn and Oregon. Oregon is very exciting to watch.
They're ranked #1 because they're undefeated, yet they barely squeaked by in three of those wins against average opponents. The #1 ranking should go to the best team in the country, and they're not, so by definition, they're overrated.
Help stamp out, eliminate, and do away with redundancy.
Yeah, I've had my doubts about TCU this year, and they've got a big one with Utah coming next weekend that they need to get through still. That being said, the most underrated result of this college football season is TCU 45, Baylor 10. Baylor's a really good team, and TCU just walloped them.
So who is the best team, and how do you possibly determine that?
The biggest myth of the BCS is that it tries to find the best two teams. Not true, no system tries to do that. It tries to determine the two most qualified teams. Auburn has beaten LSU and South Carolina while remaining unbeaten, a better "resume" than every other team in the country. That's why they deserve to be #1 right now.
Last edited by guttle11; 10-31-2010 at 04:15 PM.
i think they are overrated. right now they are #1. i dont think they finish #1 so by that token i would say they are overrated. but saying that i thnk right now they deserve that #1 ranking.
Then, by that logic, they're not overrated. The ranking isn't based on where we think they'll end up. It's based on right now. As of today. If we're saying today they deserve No. 1, then does that make them overrated? Rankings aren't projections.
If they're not No. 1, and they finish No. 4 and deserve to be No. 4, does that mean they're overrated because they finish somewhere they're not? All that means is that they lost a game.
I don't think Auburn is the best team, but since I can't sit here and produce anyone that is clearly better, regardless of whether or not I think they'll lose, as we discuss this, their rating seems justifiable. That to me is all that matters.
I still think Alabama is the best team in college football. That is to say if you put the best 8-16 teams in a playoff, I think Alabama wins. Oregon and Auburn are exciting, but traditionally, those types of defenses don't win the big one. But this year is a weird year, and while Alabama could still end up facing Oregon if it wins out, right now I recognize they're not going to be rated over undefeated teams in major conferences.
"No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." ~Tommy Lasorda
It's college football. Take "on any given (saturday)" and then make it so the best teams don't play each other. You'll never convince me we have much of an idea on which teams are truly the best.
Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.
If Auburn can get by Georgia which is no given and Bama can get past LSU and Mississippi Sate both of which aren't givens either, we'll at least get to find out the answer to who is more deserving between Auburn and Bama (it's going to be a great football day after thanksgiving)...
Oregon is good I think but they've had an easier road to this point and looking forward they have an easier road. If the criticism is that the SEC is down (which really isn't a valid argument since the SEC west is loaded and that's the competition that most informs the Auburn/Alabama schedules), then i'm not sure what the argument for a PAC Ten team would be....
Just my two cents.
BTW, anyone who thinks SEC fans are unbearable should treat themselves to a gameday at Auburn during a big showdown weekend. It's a fabulous experience and you'll be hard pressed to find more gracious hosts or a more electric atmosphere.
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