I disagree, Far East. 8th place hitters often get pitched around because of the pitcher. This usually means those guys have artificially inflated obp numbers.
(Of course, that may even out over the course of a season, as managers sak them to expand their strike zones with two outs.)
I wish that would happen but I doubt it will. In baseball old beliefs die hard.Originally Posted by nate
Orlando Cabrera is a greybeard that has been fortunate enough to play on winning teams, it really doesn't matter if he can't hit or field his position very well anymore. He can still ground out to second base with runners on second or third and less than two outs.
He is a veteran presence who knows how to win, A clubhouse leader.
Last edited by Ron Madden; 08-06-2010 at 03:45 AM.
With 1 or 2 outs, and runners on with the #8 hitter up, the pitcher wants to pitch tough. He doesn't want to face the pitcher that inning, he wants him leading off. With one out, he wants the groundball. with 2 outs, probably wants the K.
Dubito Ergo Cogito Ergo Sum.
Dude had a big 2 out hit today that proved to be the difference in the game, really.
It's not likely to get back to the 70's standard, but given the way this year is going, we're getting close(r) to being back in 1985 (cue the Bowling For Soup song).
This year, the league OPS from the SS position is .693. For context, in 1985 it was .656 and in 1975 it was .612.
I feel we're starting to trend back close to the 80's. Smaller parks, as you said, are likely to get us all the way back--but we're close.
"No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." ~Tommy Lasorda
Thanks to Homer Bailey for bringing this up in gamethread last night.
Just an awesome thread
"I came here to kick ass and chew bubble gum... and I'm all out of bubble gum."
- - Rowdy Roddy Piper
"It takes a big man to admit when he is wrong. I am not a big man"
- - Fletch
Yes, this makes for fairly good reading.
Janish has a BABIP of .238 and a line drive % of 22.5.
I think people fail to comprehend how bad a .510 OPS is.
I think I can't even comprehend it.
Janish doesn't hit many line drives.
Yeah but would a Janish line drive break glass?
Here's how bad it is. Only 5 players have qualified for the batting title in the last 5 years who have had under a .600 OPS, and only one of those was under .560 (Cesar Izturis .545 last year).
Guys who hit this bad do not last very long in a starting role. What we are seeing is somewhat unprecedented.
Since 2000, no qualified player was anywhere near .510. Hopefully PJ comes around b/c he won't be for long if he keeps this up, no matter how good his glove may be.
Something about us being on the same page makes me feel good inside lol
Thank you!!! I kept waiting for somebody to put it into context.
I'm wondering why Cozart isn't being considered for some starts at SS? You've got Janish putting up Juan Castro type numbers, his backup (Renteria) has one foot into retirement and yet I hear very little chatter about Cozart
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