Redszone Dynasty League - Discussion Thread

[AtomicDumpling]

You ladies are going to make this season a cakewalk. I'll consider this my crowning Fantasy Baseball achievement when I win this league. I may even retire. Nothing left to prove after decimating all of you.

first major smack talk of the season.

It would be your greatest achievement by far, but it is not going to happen. You will not be crowned, you will be thrown in the dungeon with the rest of the losers after I am crowned Champion of Redszone!

[AtomicDumpling]

Standings as of May 10th:

	Team		R	HR	RBI	SB	AVG	W	SV	K	ERA	WHIP	Total
1. mbgrayson 		12 	5 	8 	9 	7 	11 	5 	10 	7 	12 	86
2. Atomic Dumpling	9 	2 	3 	12 	9 	2 	12 	6 	12 	11 	78
3. redsfandan 		3 	9 	5 	9 	10 	3.5 	8.5 	8 	10 	9 	75
4. TRF's debacle 	8 	7 	6 	4 	11 	3.5 	7 	9 	11 	7 	73.5
4. Gilpdawg 		10 	10.5 	4 	11 	2 	12 	3 	11 	6 	4 	73.5
6. stephenk29 		11 	12 	12 	1 	12 	7.5 	10 	5 	1 	1 	72.5
7. The Basecloggers	2 	8 	7 	3 	4 	5.5 	8.5 	12 	8.5 	5 	63.5
8. reds77	 	6 	6 	11 	6.5 	6 	9 	4 	7 	3 	3 	61.5
9. CRF2000 		7 	4 	2 	9 	5 	10 	2 	3 	8.5 	9 	59.5
10.nate 		5 	10.5 	10 	2 	8 	7.5 	1 	2 	5 	6 	57
11.WMR Ghetty Green 	4 	3 	9 	6.5 	3 	5.5 	6 	4 	4 	9 	54
12.camisadelgolf is #1 	1 	1 	1 	5 	1 	1 	11 	1 	2 	2 	26

Just thought I would post these for the record, so we can come back and see how things have changed later in the season.

[nate]

Standings as of May 10th:

    Team        R    HR    RBI    SB    AVG    W    SV    K    ERA    WHIP    Total
1. mbgrayson         12     5     8     9     7     11     5     10     7     12     86
2. Atomic Dumpling    9     2     3     12     9     2     12     6     12     11     78
3. redsfandan         3     9     5     9     10     3.5     8.5     8     10     9     75
4. TRF's debacle     8     7     6     4     11     3.5     7     9     11     7     73.5
4. Gilpdawg         10     10.5     4     11     2     12     3     11     6     4     73.5
6. stephenk29         11     12     12     1     12     7.5     10     5     1     1     72.5
7. The Basecloggers    2     8     7     3     4     5.5     8.5     12     8.5     5     63.5
8. reds77         6     6     11     6.5     6     9     4     7     3     3     61.5
9. CRF2000         7     4     2     9     5     10     2     3     8.5     9     59.5
10.nate         5     10.5     10     2     8     7.5     1     2     5     6     57
11.WMR Ghetty Green     4     3     9     6.5     3     5.5     6     4     4     9     54
12.camisadelgolf is #1     1     1     1     5     1     1     11     1     2     2     26

Just thought I would post these for the record, so we can come back and see how things have changed later in the season.

Oh man, you should've waited one day!

[camisadelgolf]

My team is flat-out dominant.

Honestly, I really don't understand what the heck happened. Before the season started, I thought I had the clear-cut best offense in the league. Did anyone see my team failing this badly on the offensive end?

[AtomicDumpling]

Oh man, you should've waited one day!

Yeah, you gained 10 points the next day.

[AtomicDumpling]

My team is flat-out dominant.

Honestly, I really don't understand what the heck happened. Before the season started, I thought I had the clear-cut best offense in the league. Did anyone see my team failing this badly on the offensive end?

Well, you have been hit hard by injuries for one thing. I don't care how good a manager is, if you have too many injuries to your studs you are screwed.

I am not trying to criticize, but if I could find one problem theme it is too much youth. You have an awful lot of youngsters. Most of them have great potential and some have even shown flashes of production, but all-in-all you are light on solid, proven fantasy studs on the team (Vlad Guerrero, Brian Roberts, K-Rod, Brad Lidge, Cole Hamels). Having too many minor leaguers and too many injuries makes it impossible to field a top team on a daily basis.

Guys like Loney, Soto, Thome and Martin will start to play better. They are too good not to.

I don't think you need to throw in the towel yet by any means. Look at Nate, he was at the bottom a week ago and has gained 20 points since then. It is a long season. Maybe you can trade some prospects for some proven performers. Or you can go for broke and trade some proven performers for top prospects with the goal of dominating in a couple years from now.

Try to look for stat categories where you can make rapid progress in the ranks. Stats such as steals, saves and wins can sometimes be found cheaply and can shoot you up in the standings. Some stats are cheaper to find than others.

By using your innings pitched you will gain a bunch of points on the league in wins, saves and strikeouts. That alone should catch you up to the pack at least. You are 116 innings off pace already.

You probably already knew all this anyway, but I thought I would type it out just the same.

[camisadelgolf]

Thanks, AD. Yeah, I pretty much figured all that stuff. During the draft, I put a focus on future production, but I still thought my offense could be near the best. I'm just surprised at the impact of injuries I've had so far because a lot of those guys aren't known for being on the DL.

[Dom Heffner]

I think you forgot to add a "2" to the end of camisadelgolf is #1.

[camisadelgolf]

I think you forgot to add a "2" to the end of camisadelgolf is #1.

No, I didn't.

[AtomicDumpling]

Standings as of May 10th:

	Team		R	HR	RBI	SB	AVG	W	SV	K	ERA	WHIP	Total
1. mbgrayson 		12 	5 	8 	9 	7 	11 	5 	10 	7 	12 	86
2. Atomic Dumpling	9 	2 	3 	12 	9 	2 	12 	6 	12 	11 	78
3. redsfandan 		3 	9 	5 	9 	10 	3.5 	8.5 	8 	10 	9 	75
4. TRF's debacle 	8 	7 	6 	4 	11 	3.5 	7 	9 	11 	7 	73.5
4. Gilpdawg 		10 	10.5 	4 	11 	2 	12 	3 	11 	6 	4 	73.5
6. stephenk29 		11 	12 	12 	1 	12 	7.5 	10 	5 	1 	1 	72.5
7. The Basecloggers	2 	8 	7 	3 	4 	5.5 	8.5 	12 	8.5 	5 	63.5
8. reds77	 	6 	6 	11 	6.5 	6 	9 	4 	7 	3 	3 	61.5
9. CRF2000 		7 	4 	2 	9 	5 	10 	2 	3 	8.5 	9 	59.5
10.nate 		5 	10.5 	10 	2 	8 	7.5 	1 	2 	5 	6 	57
11.WMR Ghetty Green 	4 	3 	9 	6.5 	3 	5.5 	6 	4 	4 	9 	54
12.camisadelgolf is #1 	1 	1 	1 	5 	1 	1 	11 	1 	2 	2 	26

Standings as of June 20th appear below. You can compare them to the standings from May 10th above.

Rank	Team			R	HR	RBI	SB	AVG	W	SV	K	ERA	WHIP	Total
1. 	nate 			8 	12 	12 	3 	10 	11 	11 	8 	6 	8.5 	89.5
2. 	mbgrayson 		10.5 	9 	9 	9 	4 	10 	5.5 	9 	11 	11 	88
3. 	Atomic Dumpling 	12 	3.5 	8 	12 	12 	2 	12 	3 	10 	10 	84.5
4. 	Gilpdawg 		9 	8 	6 	11 	5 	12 	3 	11 	4 	3.5 	72.5
5. 	stephenk29 		10.5 	10 	11 	4 	9 	5.5 	9 	6 	3 	1 	69
6. 	TRF's debacle 		4 	5 	2 	1 	8 	8 	5.5 	10 	12 	12 	67.5
7. 	CRF2000 		6 	6.5 	5 	6 	7 	9 	1 	5 	9 	7 	61.5
8. 	reds77 			7 	11 	10 	7.5 	3 	7 	2 	7 	2 	2 	58.5
9. 	redsfandan 		3 	6.5 	4 	5 	11 	1 	8 	2 	7 	6 	53.5
10. 	The Basecloggers	1 	3.5 	3 	2 	2 	5.5 	7 	12 	8 	8.5 	52.5
11. 	WMR Ghetty Green 	5 	2 	7 	7.5 	6 	4 	4 	4 	1 	5 	45.5
12. 	camisadelgolf is #1 	2 	1 	1 	10 	1 	3 	10 	1 	5 	3.5 	37.5

Nate made a big move from 10th place to first after his two big trades. The standings have shaken up quite a bit. I wonder what they will look like next month...

[camisadelgolf]

Wow, I gained 11.5 points. All of you shoudl be shaknig in your boots. I'm drukn.

[*BaseClogger*]

Why can't I give away Carlos Pena?

[TRF]

Why can't I give away Carlos Pena?

I'll give you FeLo for him.

[AtomicDumpling]

Here are the standings from various dates this season. It is interesting to track the ups-and-downs of the league as the months go by.

May 10th:
			R	HR	RBI	SB	AVG	W	SV	K	ERA	WHIP	Total
1. mbgrayson 		12 	5 	8 	9 	7 	11 	5 	10 	7 	12 	86
2. Atomic Dumpling	9 	2 	3 	12 	9 	2 	12 	6 	12 	11 	78
3. redsfandan 		3 	9 	5 	9 	10 	3.5 	8.5 	8 	10 	9 	75
4. TRF's debacle 	8 	7 	6 	4 	11 	3.5 	7 	9 	11 	7 	73.5
4. Gilpdawg 		10 	10.5 	4 	11 	2 	12 	3 	11 	6 	4 	73.5
6. stephenk29 		11 	12 	12 	1 	12 	7.5 	10 	5 	1 	1 	72.5
7. The Basecloggers	2 	8 	7 	3 	4 	5.5 	8.5 	12 	8.5 	5 	63.5
8. reds77	 	6 	6 	11 	6.5 	6 	9 	4 	7 	3 	3 	61.5
9. CRF2000 		7 	4 	2 	9 	5 	10 	2 	3 	8.5 	9 	59.5
10.nate 		5 	10.5 	10 	2 	8 	7.5 	1 	2 	5 	6 	57
11.WMR Ghetty Green 	4 	3 	9 	6.5 	3 	5.5 	6 	4 	4 	9 	54
12.camisadelgolf is #1 	1 	1 	1 	5 	1 	1 	11 	1 	2 	2 	26

June 20th:
			R	HR	RBI	SB	AVG	W	SV	K	ERA	WHIP	Total
1. nate 		8 	12 	12 	3 	10 	11 	11 	8 	6 	8.5 	89.5
2. mbgrayson 		10.5 	9 	9 	9 	4 	10 	5.5 	9 	11 	11 	88
3. Atomic Dumpling 	12 	3.5 	8 	12 	12 	2 	12 	3 	10 	10 	84.5
4. Gilpdawg 		9 	8 	6 	11 	5 	12 	3 	11 	4 	3.5 	72.5
5. stephenk29 		10.5 	10 	11 	4 	9 	5.5 	9 	6 	3 	1 	69
6. TRF's debacle 	4 	5 	2 	1 	8 	8 	5.5 	10 	12 	12 	67.5
7. CRF2000 		6 	6.5 	5 	6 	7 	9 	1 	5 	9 	7 	61.5
8. reds77 		7 	11 	10 	7.5 	3 	7 	2 	7 	2 	2 	58.5
9. redsfandan 		3 	6.5 	4 	5 	11 	1 	8 	2 	7 	6 	53.5
10.The Basecloggers	1 	3.5 	3 	2 	2 	5.5 	7 	12 	8 	8.5 	52.5
11.WMR Ghetty Green 	5 	2 	7 	7.5 	6 	4 	4 	4 	1 	5 	45.5
12.camisadelgolf is #1 	2 	1 	1 	10 	1 	3 	10 	1 	5 	3.5 	37.5


August 6th:
			R	HR	RBI	SB	AVG	W	SV	K	ERA	WHIP	Total
1. nate 		9 	12 	12 	6 	10 	11 	12 	8 	8 	7.5 	95.5
2. Atomic Dumpling 	11 	4 	8 	12 	12 	5.5 	11 	6 	9 	9.5 	88
3. mbgrayson 		12 	11 	9.5 	4.5 	5 	8 	10 	9 	7 	11 	87
4. TRF's debacle 	4 	8 	3 	2 	7 	10 	9 	11 	12 	12 	78
5. stephenk29 		10 	9 	9.5 	4.5 	11 	4 	8 	5 	4.5 	3 	68.5
5. Gilpdawg 		8 	3 	6 	11 	3 	12 	4 	10 	6 	5.5 	68.5
7. CRF2000 		6 	7 	5 	9 	8.5 	7 	1 	3 	11 	7.5 	65
8. The Basecloggers 	3 	6 	4 	1 	6 	5.5 	6 	12 	10 	9.5 	63
9. reds77 		7 	10 	11 	10 	2 	9 	2 	7 	2 	1 	61
10.WMR Ghetty Green 	5 	5 	7 	7.5 	4 	3 	5 	4 	1 	5.5 	47
11.redsfandan 		1 	2 	1 	3 	8.5 	1 	3 	2 	4.5 	4 	30
12.camisadelgolf is #1 	2 	1 	2 	7.5 	1 	2 	7 	1 	3 	2 	28.5

The battle for bragging rights continues!

Thanks to everybody for making this a competitive league. Everyone has done a great job of paying attention and doing their best to win. Hopefully all of us will be playing together in this league for many seasons.

Most random, anonymous Yahoo or ESPN leagues have already been ruined by owners abandoning their teams or other shenanigans.

Even if you are out of the running for the 2009 championship you still have the challenge of building your team for next year and beyond.

[WMR]

Wow, I'm dead last in ERA. Hahahaha... thanks Liriano and Nolasco.