I was just looking at there stats and if any one of those guys come here it will be no better than what we have shield gave up a league leading 34 hrs last year......remind you of anyone caugh caugh arroyo and jimenez gives up way to many walks....volquez caugh caugh. the reds need to save there prospects and go after pence. I would give up stubbs alonso grandal and volquez for him. maybe I'm overpaying but that is how much i value him in our lineup hitting in between votto and bruce plus heisey becomes my everyday cf. so if you look at it what are the reds out of at that point sure they give up alot but its guys that are all blocked and it makes the lineup complete for years to come