Leslie Frazier will be Lovie's DC in Tampa.
and apparently fellow former Viking head coach Mike Tice will join Frazier in Tampa.
Everybody gets a job with Lovie!
Leslie Frazier will be Lovie's DC in Tampa.
and apparently fellow former Viking head coach Mike Tice will join Frazier in Tampa.
Everybody gets a job with Lovie!
Last edited by Tom Servo; 01-04-2014 at 12:46 AM.
“I don’t care,” Votto said of passing his friend and former teammate. “He’s in the past. Bye-bye, Jay.”
Munchak fired by Tenn today. A bit of a surprise as reports had him listed as being safe. Looks like ownership wanted changes in his staff. He was almost hired by Penn State 2 yrs ago after PAterno was fired.
Last edited by KoryMac5; 01-04-2014 at 03:30 PM.
If you have a losing record at Reds games, please stop going.
After 2 years of Schiano, anything is an improvement.Originally Posted by Tom Servo
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Right, I'm asking how many college coaches have produced more.
Grape works as a soda. Sort of as a gum. I wonder why it doesn't work as a pie. Grape pie? There's no grape pie. - Larry David
David Cutcliffe.
When all is said and done more is said than done.
Jay Gruden to Washington is the hot rumor on the NFL network.
If you have a losing record at Reds games, please stop going.
Gruden would be out of his mind to take this gig -- that's a dysfunctional franchise that's going absolutely nowhere as long as Dan Snyder is charge.
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Tom Servo (01-07-2014)
Perhaps but Dan Snyder does pay well. Get a multiyear contract and be set for life financially
Joe Tiller (Kyle Orton, Drew Brees)
Pete Carroll (Matt Cassel, Carson Palmer)
Tom O'Brien (Russell Wilson, Mike Glennon)
The point with Tedford is less the successes that he's had and more the abysmal failures. Though, I suppose it's arguable that an abysmal failure in the NFL is still preferable to the person who was judged as not talented enough to even be given a shot.
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So Kyle Orton counts as a quality NFL QB, but Trent Dilfer and Joey Harrington do not. And Matt Cassel? And Mike Glennon, who hasn't even played a full season.
Also, these lists are all 2 deep, and none of them....except for maybe Drew Brees...... is comparable to Aaron Rodgers. I'd say his resume with QBs is as good as anyone's has been over the last 20 years. But I also don't think the college coach is any kind of indication as to a QBs ability to succeed in the NFL. If that were the case, the list would look a lot differently. The college game and pro game are so different that I think some just have the ability to succeed over the long-term in the NFL. I don't think whether or not someone has that ability is going to change based on who they played for in college. If there's any correlation, I think it would be more based on a coaches ability to scout who is going to be good as opposed to how they develop them.
Grape works as a soda. Sort of as a gum. I wonder why it doesn't work as a pie. Grape pie? There's no grape pie. - Larry David
It's hard to compare QBs anymore, what with the way the rules are now so heavily skewed towards passing offenses -- but shockingly, Kyle Orton has a higher QBR (79.9) than Dilfer (70.2) or Harrington (69.4).
And, speaking as Bucs fan, I really like Mike Glennon. I think he played well given how the entire season was basically a dumpster fire burning around him, and I think that with a proper offensive scheme (not one that sends all your WRs vertical and trusts the QB to make a precision throw into coverage constantly) he could be a very good QB in the future.
My comment about Tedford wasn't entirely serious. QBs bust all the time from all sorts of coaches -- even coaches who have placed quality QBs into the league before. The difference between Tedford and the slew of other coaches is that lots of Tedford's guys got very public opportunities to fail.
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That may be true, but a lot of guys liked Harrington after his first year and a lot of guys disliked Brees, etc.... I find it interesting that NC State jettisoned Russell Wilson so they could start Glennon. Wisconsin was very grateful.
Grape works as a soda. Sort of as a gum. I wonder why it doesn't work as a pie. Grape pie? There's no grape pie. - Larry David
That was a weird situation. NC State didn't exactly want Wilson to leave, but Wilson wanted to play pro baseball that spring and summer and decide later if he felt like playing more college football that fall, which he could do anywhere because of the graduate-transfer rule. With Glennon around, O'Brien was able to say "okay, fine," instead of begging him to return. But yeah, Wisconsin ended up being very, VERY happy about that.
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IIRC, Wilson's transfer had a lot to do with his desire to play minor league baseball in the offseason.
When all is said and done more is said than done.
Why take the paycut? It's why I think Chuckie hasn't roamed an NFL sideline since Tampa fired him. You get all the luxuries and none of the migranes working for one of the media outlets.
The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change, the realist adjusts the sails.
William Arthur Ward
Revering4Blue (01-07-2014)
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