Congratulations, BP!
Well-earned.
Congratulations, BP!
Well-earned.
Right next to the Chiquita banana football helmet stickers...Originally Posted by westofyou
I'm the leader in STP and I have the sticker on my bedroom door (next to my wacky packages stickers)
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Tom Servo (10-30-2013)
This, opposite your bedroom door sitting on the nightstand:I'm the leader in STP and I have the sticker on my bedroom door (next to my wacky packages stickers)
Revering4Blue (10-30-2013)
I'm the leader in STP and I have the sticker on my bedroom door (next to my wacky packages stickers)
Whatever you do, do your best to not allow the struggles of life to interfere with the pleasures of living.
BluegrassRedleg (10-31-2013),Tom Servo (10-30-2013)
Those football stickers and beastball cards look awesome, I want.
I dont care, Votto said of passing his friend and former teammate. Hes in the past. Bye-bye, Jay.
To those wed to the metrics argument, it's more important than anything. They can't pull away from the dogma.Do you root for the Reds? Never understood slamming your own player when he wins an award.
Rounding third and heading for home...
I'm not sure about some of the older metrics.. but for either method of calculating dWAR currently, a grounder to third would have ZERO effect on that.
Barry On Baseball Also blogging at Banished to the Pen.
I'm happy for him, but I would have went with Barney. BP has visibly lost a step. He's still great, just think he's no longer the best. My eyes match what the numbers say. I remember several occasions thinking "younger BP would have made that play" as the ball passed by just barely out of reach.
Barry On Baseball Also blogging at Banished to the Pen.
It's pretty interesting that only 4 of the 8 position players who won Gold Gloves in the NL were ranked the best at their position by Fangraphs. Some of the GG winners were ranked way down the list according to Fangraphs.
GG winners are listed below. Number in parentheses denotes where they were ranked by Fangraphs. Names in right-hand column were rated No. 1 at their positions by Fangraphs.
Who do you trust: Players and managers or the numbers?Code:Pos (FG#) Gold Glove winner FG No. 1 C (2) Yadier Molina Russell Martin 1B (4) Paul Goldschmidt Anthony Rizzo 2B (2) Brandon Phillips Darwin Barney SS (1) Andrelton Simmons Andrelton Simmons 3B (1) Nolan Arenado Nolan Arenado LF (3) Carlos Gonzalez Starling Marte CF (1) Carlos Gomez Carlos Gomez RF (1) Gerardo Parra Gerardo Parra
It's hard to argue with the fangraphs selections but I'm not sure that the defensive metrics are QUITE there yet to be able to determine the awards solely on numbers.
Well, at least in the NL, (I don't watch a whole lot of AL games, so I'm not as well versed), but all the guys that fangraphs and the voters agreed on were pretty clearly the best, so I don't think anything really changed. Anybody who watched baseball this year could tell you, numbers or no, that Simmons, Arenado, Gomez, and Parra were the best at their positions. I actually thought Arenado may not win because he's not that well known, so good on them.
Barry On Baseball Also blogging at Banished to the Pen.
To me, the people who argue against Phillips winning it seem to be picking nits on the issue. Barney was probably the best defensive 2B in baseball this year but it's not like Phillips is in the category of Derek Jeter and didn't deserve it. Phillips had a spectacular defensive year and I'm ok with either Barney or Phillips winning it. This isn't Palmero winning it when he DH'd most of the year.
EDIT: I am noticing more of an outrage in other forums and discussion boards than here. I just kind of laugh at some of the reaction I'm seeing to this award.
I didn't say it would affect dWAR. I said a ground ball to third base has a negative impact on a second baseman's Range Factor.
A flute with no holes is not a flute. A doughnut with no holes is a danish. -- Zen Philosopher Basho
Ok then. Range Factor is outdated anyway.
Barry On Baseball Also blogging at Banished to the Pen.
UZR rated Barney and Phillips closely enough that it would be pretty difficult to tell them apart by the eye. Phillips did it on a playoff team that recieved more converage. I think it would be pretty tough to be "outraged" over this one.
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