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    Re: Ryan Braun fails drug test

    ESPN News - Sources: NL MVP Ryan Braun facing 50-game suspension after testing positive for PEDs

    I received that in my email.


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    Re: Ryan Braun fails drug test

    Quote Originally Posted by kaldaniels View Post
    What will convict him in your (Red)eyes?
    Just want to give the process a chance to play itself out. He is, after all, appealing.
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    Re: Ryan Braun fails drug test

    Quote Originally Posted by hebroncougar View Post
    So, he got caught in a cycle, probably knew it, and requested another test? Sorry Ryan, you're busted. No way around it.
    Honest question - what would be the time frame? How long between the time he takes one test and gets a retest?
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    Re: Ryan Braun fails drug test

    False negatives are as real as positives, not all drug tests are perfect.

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    Would it be possible for him to learn the results immediately? And, if so, would he simply have taken the test again on the same day? It that's the case, and the second one was negative, he might actually have a chance at a successful appeal.
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    Re: Ryan Braun fails drug test

    No mention yet on mlb.com (despite Braun releasing a statement), don't want to damage the product.

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    Re: Ryan Braun fails drug test

    He deserves the benefit of the doubt.
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    Most damming part of it. The test was done twice on the same first sample.

    Braun, 28, was tested during the playoffs and notified of the positive result in late-October. Elevated levels of testosterone in Braun's system triggered the positive test, which prompted MLB to ask the testing agency to perform a second test. The second test determined that the testosterone was synthetic, meaning it was produced outside of Braun's body.
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    Re: Ryan Braun fails drug test

    Quote Originally Posted by 757690 View Post
    Most damming part of it. The test was done twice on the same first sample.
    All positives retest the same sample, in all drug tests. The second test is usually a different type of test on the same sample.

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    Re: Ryan Braun fails drug test

    Yeah 75, thats the part that makes it hard to wriggle off the hook. There is a vial of blood or urine sample drawn from his body that contains synthetic testosterone.

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    "Braun asked to be retested"

    To me that means another blood draw/urine sample/whatever.

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    Re: Ryan Braun fails drug test

    Quote Originally Posted by jojo View Post
    He deserves the benefit of the doubt.
    Why is there any doubt?Braun has a story just like everyone else that has failed had a story.Has there ever been anyone that just comes out and admits that they were using PED's once testing positive?No surprise to me that Braun isn't the first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaldaniels View Post
    Yeah 75, thats the part that makes it hard to wriggle off the hook. There is a vial of blood drawn from his body that contains synthetic testosterone.
    I believe it was urine, but yeah, that's his biggest problem. He has to explain how that exists. Right now he's just saying he has no idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jojo View Post
    He deserves the benefit of the doubt.
    I agree, but only because we don't know all the facts, and what we do know is the result of leaks.

    If what has been leaked is verified, it's hard to believe that he is completely innocent.
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    Re: Ryan Braun fails drug test

    Quote Originally Posted by RedEye View Post
    Just want to give the process a chance to play itself out. He is, after all, appealing.
    A positive test is a positive test. That is the process. That's the conviction.
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