Mon 9.21.15 Reds @ team they are playing after the Brewers

[_Sir_Charles_]

Wouldn't this be a sweet spot for Pena's first HR of the year?

[BluegrassRedleg]

Jay Bruce makes me sad.

[Tom Servo]

We're still bad, tough loss.

[George Foster]

ground hog day....

[50YrRedsFan]

An excellent outing by Lamb wasted.

[Ironman92]

Horse crap

[Chip R]

JJ's been very bad here in September, but come on guys...he was rock solid most all season long.

Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?

[WVRedsFan]

I know the game meant nothing, but I just hate to see after seeing what he has done lately (ERA up over 50 points from 1.80 to 2.30) in few innings trusting him in a one-run game. Reds lose, but it was an easy prediction. September is 5 innings, five hits, five runs, five walks, and 8 K's. ERA? 8.84, and that was before tonight. Thanks for your earlier work, JJ, but see you in February or somewhere else.

[Big Klu]

Didn't know that.

Yeah, that's what I meant when I said they had only a four-man bench. Barnhart, DeJesus, Schumaker, and Boesch. (Peña is available only as a PH.)

Negrón, Hamilton, and LaMarre are unavailable due to injury.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Hoover has been inconsistent to just bad for the last couple of months, since the all star break he has pitched as well as he did last season!

Wrong. Heck, just looking month to month (which is a poor way to break it down IMO...but it's easy).

April (8.2 ip / 5.19 era) - one bad game in Milw. did him in here.
May (12.0 ip / 0.00 era)
June (14.2 ip / 0.61 era)
July(10.0 ip / 3.60 era) - 2 bad outings, 8 scoreless games
Aug (11.2 ip / 0.77 era) - 1 solo HR only run all month
Sept (5.1 ip / 8.44 era) - not counting tonight

Outside of one game in April and 2 back to back games in July he's been fantastic this season...until September.

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Yeah, that's what I meant when I said they had only a four-man bench. Barnhart, DeJesus, Schumaker, and Boesch. (Peña is available only as a PH.)

Negrón, Hamilton, and LaMarre are unavailable due to injury.

Oh. Negron's out too? I missed both of those DL's.

[WVRedsFan]

He obviously is trending downward (Hoover), but you can use statistics all you want about JJ to prove he is good, but lately you can use statistics to prove you can't trust him in a close game. It's kind of like, "it's not what you've done for me, but what haveyou done for me lately?"

[_Sir_Charles_]

He obviously is trending downward (Hoover), but you can use statistics all you want about JJ to prove he is good, but lately you can use statistics to prove you can't trust him in a close game. It's kind of like, "it's not what you've done for me, but what have to done for me lately?"

Don't get me wrong. I don't trust him either. I thought he should've been dealt at the trade deadline when he was at his highest value because I fully expected him to fall off a cliff (same as Frazier).

But guys are saying he's garbage and that he's been bad this year. And that's simply not true. I don't want to see him on the club moving forward but I also have to acknowledge that up until September he's had a VERY nice season. This month has been a dumpster fire for sure.

[Big Klu]

Oh. Negron's out too? I missed both of those DL's.

Technically, neither is on the DL, though Negrón is out for the year. He separated his shoulder and tore his labrum in his left (non-throwing) arm on a diving catch in LF the first night he returned from Louisville. I think they said 6-8 months.

Hamilton and LaMarre are out indefinitely.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Technically, neither is on the DL, though Negrón is out for the year. He separated his shoulder and tore his labrum in his left (non-throwing) arm on a diving catch in LF the first night he returned from Louisville. I think they said 6-8 months.

Hamilton and LaMarre are out indefinitely.

That's right. I'd forgotten about that diving catch by Negron. But they didn't DL him? LOL. Whatever.

[Tom Servo]

Technically, neither is on the DL, though Negrón is out for the year. He separated his shoulder and tore his labrum in his left (non-throwing) arm on a diving catch in LF the first night he returned from Louisville. I think they said 6-8 months.

Hamilton and LaMarre are out indefinitely.

Didn't get why they didn't DL Negron and call up somebody like Falu, like you said. Now guys have dropped like flies and the Reds have no bench despite being able to carry 40 freakin guys.