Anyone doubt now that offering Arroyo arbitration would have resulted in him accepting a 1-year, $14M contract?
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Good news for Arroyo is Arizona is better defensively at all positions except 2B and 3B (and maybe LF now that Trumbo is there). The bad news is how the dry air impacts breaking balls. I think Bronson is going to struggle in AZ, not because of defense or how the ball flies, but because he's not a power guy and I think that dry air will impact his command on the junk that he throws.
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Bronson landed about where I thought at 2 yrs/18-20. Nice getting some change for the third year option. Arroyo was a great asset to the Reds through some lean years and then the good years. The qualifying offer would have been taken and the Reds couldn't afford that risk. His gem vs. the Giants in Game 2 showed how nails he was when the pressure was on. Shame he didn't get more postseason starts as a Red.
Chase Field is a hitters park, but he'll be loving all those starts in the California ballparks.
The offseason of nothingness for the Reds just got a little more empty. Pray for good health for the starting five.
Best of luck to Arroyo in Arizona (except against the Reds, of course). He was as durable as they come and logged a ton of innings each season for the Reds, all at an above average clip. It was likely time to part ways with him rather than committing a pile of cash, but I'll still miss him.
He'll be deserving of a plaque on Joe Nuxhall Way once he hangs'em up for good.
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Yeah, I misunderstood the original reports.
Apparently it's $19 million for two years of salary and $4.3 million buyout.
So for two years of pitching Arroyo gets $23.5 million. That's a bit under $12 million per year all included.
Seems fair, but still would not justify a qualifying offer by the Reds. Reds clearly made the correct decision.
I always liked him. He is a smart guy (judging from interviews and others talk about him) and found a niche to be succesful in the mlb without having that great pitches.
If the front office would know about bailey´s future a little more (for example if they would have known that he won´t sign a lt extension), I would have made him a qualified offer.
if he accepts it, you overpay him for one year and can trade bailey. if not you´ll get something for him...
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I don't know if you are talking to me or just adding onto my post. But in case my tone was missed, I have to admit I put that up rather facetiously. The difference between the 2 stats mentioned was so small it doesn't bother me. Most Reds starters of recent times have had ERAs that are better than predicted by FIP/xFIP...except Homer, which might be interesting to dive into one day.
Now I did say due to Bronson not being your normal pitcher, I can understand some wiggle room on his WAR, but not to a significant extent.
Can we get a thread title change?
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