“And when finally they sense that some position cannot be sustained, they do not re-examine their ideas. Instead, they simply change the subject.” Jamie Galbraith
Okay, so after some research I think I understand the waivers rules a bit better. What I don't understand is this:
If the two PTBNL have to clear waivers before the deal is official, what is to stop other clubs from placing claims on them before the 48-hour wait period is over?
That is, say Micah Owings and Josh Whitesell are currently on waivers. And say the Astros make a waiver claim on both of them. Wouldn't that screw up the trade? Or would Walt just have to renegotiate for different players?
Sorry if I'm being dense here, but I'm just trying to figure out how this works.
“Every level he goes to, he is going to compete. They will know who he is at every level he goes to.” -- ED on EDLC
Well, a lot of folks are going to get exactly what they wanted on offense. And we'll see how much *better* it is.
I'll wait to see the full return before I form a full opinion, but if they don't go out and get a big bat this off-season, next year's Reds are goig to have one of the worst offenses we've seen in decades. I know I'm not looking forward to it.
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They wouldn't be giving him up for nothing.
They would be giving him up to save $45M.
That would be quite a savings..
I know Carpenter is very capable of getting back to a reasonable pitcher.
But if he was a FA today, he would likely get an incentive laden contract. He would currently have negative trade value. I wouldn't take him for nothing.
Guys like Carpenter... I love signing them when they rehab and such, but you almost have to deal them after they start making lots of money. Carp sure has the upside, but for every good year, you might get 1-2 injury riddled seasons.
The Cards were crazy to extend him prematurely. I prefer the Rich Harden rode. Wait for the first dominating period, and flip them before they get injured again.
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I'm a little confused, but I don't think they would trade pitcher with his upside within the same division (contract be damned). At the same time, I don't want the Reds to acquire him if they are in rebuild mode.
As for Derek Lowe, I advocated the Reds signing him before this "rebuild", but I don't think it is a good idea anymore. I just feel he is a better choice than Chris Carpenter regardless the situation...
“Every level he goes to, he is going to compete. They will know who he is at every level he goes to.” -- ED on EDLC
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If they (or either) is claimed, they would simply be traded after the season when they could pass to the Reds without waivers. But it's unlikely any team would block them. They would know they are going to the Reds, and they would have chance of getting them. Also, the Reds would claim them, so they would only have to worry about teams behind them claiming them.
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