Nobody's saying that. Not even close. Not one person here takes any offense to you not enjoying the style of the jersey or that it doesn't appeal to you.r
It's more that it seems that you can't accept or at the very least acknowledge that there is a place for stuff like this because it appeals to other people. It comes accross as "if Randy doesn't like it shouldn't exist".
Is it that hard to say that you pass on the design and the shirts aren't for you without getting into all this other nonsense about whether the Reds should be able to produce stuff like this to appeal to others?
How many times do I have to explain my view, my opinion. I prefer home white traditional Reds uniforms. I prefer road grey traditional Reds uniforms. It is my opinion that any other jersey is unnecessary, outside of a BP jersey to "sweat up" in pre-game workouts. I feel any other "on field" jersey is really unnecessary. It's my opinion. I'm not saying you have to agree with it, but neither do I have to agree with yours.
Last edited by RollyInRaleigh; 12-11-2012 at 12:58 AM.
I've never said that they can't produce the jerseys. They can do whatever they want. So can you. So can anyone. I just feel that extra "on-field" jerseys are unnecessary. My opinion.
It doesn't bother me that you or anyone else like the jerseys. Go buy 6 of 'em. Do whatever you like. I still can have my opinion. Why does it bother you so much?
I'd say Rojos shirts are a pure gimmick with the opportunity to spawn future gimmicks, even to progress beyond gimmicks. Green shirts and caps are about as far as you can take the Irish thing. Beer cozy is about the only other place to go. Irish cultural traits like extreme distrust of outsiders and repressed sexuality just don't make for great merchandising opportunities.
Like you noted, who knows where the Hispanic thing goes. There's nations full of Spanish speaking people who follow MLB plus a massive Hispanic-American culture. The jersey itself reflects American mashup culture, which is an avenue to reaching younger fans. So it's definitely bigger down the road.
As for today, it's just another product off the huckster mill.
I'm not a system player. I am a system.
Let me get this straight.
We have four pages dedicated to Randy not liking a jersey and people mad at Randy for not liking the jersey.
So when do pitchers and catchers report?
"Boys, I'm one of those umpires that misses 'em every once in a while so if it's close, you'd better hit it." Cal Hubbard
I don't even like the jerseys (as I stated).
It only bothered me to the point that your argument at times seemed like it was bordering at times on intolerant (not necessarily bigotry, but intolerant) and stuff like that bothers me.
I stated that I thought you had better intentions than were coming across, and attempted to mediate the discussion a bit and thought a different perspective might lighten your stance a bit and maybe shed some light on maybe why your posts are being interpreted in a negative light.
Anyways... have a good night.
Ohh, well, I can think of a few pretty good Italian players. And since we are a country of immigrants, I think you would find a lot of different heritage in the makeup of MLB rosters over the years. Should we honor those as well with on field jerseys? And baseball doesn't have a language but the symbols on teams jerseys over the years have represented many different heritages and languages. How can anyone look at the Pirates uniform and not think of Roberto Clemente. The classic interlocking "NY" on the Yankees uniform says Dimaggio, Ruth, Gehrig, Mantle, Jackson, and Posada just to name a few. The classic old English "D" of the Tigers says Ty Cobb, Hank Greenberg, Al Kaline, and Willie Horton, and the Dodger uniform most certainly says Sandy Koufax and Jackie Robinson. It's an honor to wear a classic Major League uniform. The players are remembered for what they did in those flannels and double knits. There is a bond to those that wear them. As a kid, I would've given anything to have one of those jerseys. I think kids of any heritage would have felt the same way and would have given anything to have one of the classic jerseys that their heroes wore. To be able to wear one of those jerseys was a dream.
Today's MLB can and will market anything it can for the almighty dollar. I just choose to like the classics. You, or anyone else, can like whatever you want. Doesn't bother me in the least, but, my opinion is my own. I won't give that up.
Last edited by RollyInRaleigh; 12-11-2012 at 01:31 AM.
Whatever you think of the Los Rojos uniforms, they are not even close to the most offensive Reds uniforms ever. The 1993 Good Humor Reds...
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That explains everything."We saw the Brewers do this with Los Cervezeros," said Karen Forgus, the Reds' senior vice president of business operations. "There is an appetite for the fans to buy them. They sell well in other markets."
‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’ Matthew 25:40
Freedom of speech? Not for you, Randy! Unless you speak Spanish or some other non-English language. Funny how that works.
According to the 2000 US Census 7.7 times as many people claim English as their primary language versus Spanish. Spanish is #2 in this great country though. And ahead of English and Spanish is the almighty dollar/peso/euro/etc. Hmmmm.
Sign Language is #15 (more than Japanese). Therefore, I think we may see MLB catering to these 1/2 million people. The sign for "red" is made by making a movement that looks like you are stroking your lips (one time) with the tip of your index finger. I hope to see this on a jersey... with moving finger! If we can use computers to call balls-and-strikes, then this technology has to be there.
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