Is there any evidence that Pete used said corked bats during the games?
Does he deserve the benefit of the doubt on that?
Is there any evidence that Pete used said corked bats during the games?
Does he deserve the benefit of the doubt on that?
No, he lost that privilege quite some time ago.Originally Posted by fearofpopvol1
Once guilty, always guilty?
A friend of mine, who is a common pleas court judge, told me that when weighing the testimony of a witness, if a juror has found the witness to be dishonest in one part of his testimony then he can dismiss the entire testimony as being unreliable.
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No. Not really.
IF you read the article, you have to come to the conclusion that either one of the owners of the bat has inserted the cork OR that Rose used the bat in a game situation.
It's really tough to believe that one of the owners of the bat would take what they believe to be a very expensive bit of baseball memorabilia and start cutting on it.
It's much easier to say Rose was at least occasionally using corked bats at the end of his career. Does anybody think that would be out of character?
What I don't get is the "holier than thou" attitude being applied. Baseball has a long history of players bending the rules in order to take every advantage they could. That's not just Pete, that's everybody.
"Even a bad day at the ballpark beats the snot out of most other good days. I'll take my scorecard and pencil and beer and hot dog and rage at the dips and cheer at the highs, but I'm not ever going to stop loving this game and this team and nobody will ever take that away from me." Roy Tucker October 2010
From Deadspin
Bill Schubert's bat was authenticated by Sports Investments, which had received it directly from Pete Rose, so the chain of custody was as pristine as it gets. Still, there was no way to prove it had actually been used in a regular-season game, rather than, say, in batting practice or spring training.
I would think it would be quite easy to tell if the cork was added later. Seems to me it would have to be re-painted and it would be very difficult to match the old paint
You asked if he deserved the benefit of doubt, I said he didn't, as far as guilt I don't really care, and as dfs noted, getting an edge in baseball is as american as apple pie and chevrolet's.
I'm not shocked whether it's true or BS.
Except that the Deadspin article says that the value of the bat, if corked, is more than 20X higher corked than not corked.
Would an owner of this bat want to increase the value from $5,000 to more than $100,000? Nah, that wouldn't be enough to make anyone fake a corked bat, would it?A game-used PR4192 bat could go for $5,000 or more. But a proven corked bat is unique; no one has any idea how high the bidding could go. Certainly six figures.
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"I think we’re starting to get to the point where people are starting to get tired of this stretch of ball,” Votto said. “I think something needs to start changing and start going in a different direction. I’m going to do my part to help make that change.”
I agree, it sounds like this guy is trying to make a buck, I dont blame him for trying to make money, its a non issue, the hit record is Pete's and it will be his for a long time
The HR record is Bonds' and will be for a long time, well until AROD breaks it and then it'll be his.
"I know a lot about the law and various other lawyerings."
Hitters who avoid outs are the funnest.
youre right about that, I think unless they let Pete in the hall then all the junkies dont deserve to go either, they did let Ricky Henderson in, so they did slip up
Last edited by icehole3; 06-09-2010 at 07:42 AM.
I see denial isn't just a river in Egypt.
Pete urinated away all his credibility many many years ago.
If he told me that the sky is blue and the clouds is white and the grass was is green and the mud is brown, I would go look and see for myself and make sure.
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If all he did was cork his bat, I'd be in favor of him getting into the Hall. Betting on baseball is worse than PEDs, corking, spitters.....etc.
"I know a lot about the law and various other lawyerings."
Hitters who avoid outs are the funnest.
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