Bray's long-ball-giving-up tendencies preclude closer to my mind. But I'm intriqued about giving him some starts.Originally Posted by mth123
Bray's long-ball-giving-up tendencies preclude closer to my mind. But I'm intriqued about giving him some starts.
Stanton said in the San Fran newspaper that the reason he decided to sign with CIN instead of resigning with SanFran was because CIN offered him two guaranteed years and SanFran would only give him one guaranteed with an option. So, this contract is definitely 2 guaranteed years with an option.
'When I'm not longer rapping, I want to open up an ice cream parlor and call myself Scoop Dogg.'
-Snoop on his retirement
Your Mom is happy.
Hal McCoy, of the Dayton Daily News, reports recently signed Cincinnati Reds RP Mike Stanton will be expected to fill the closer's role next season. Stanton was 4-2 with a 3.09 ERA and eight saves for the San Francisco Giants last season.
I hope Hal is the only one that expects Stanton to close.
Per ESPN:
Stanton agreed to a two-year deal for $5.5 million, with a vesting option for a third year.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2669701
Terrible deal.
They must really not give a hoot about money. Because that's how they're spending it.
Guy has a mediocre season in two very pitcher-friendly parks last season. Hooray.
“And when finally they sense that some position cannot be sustained, they do not re-examine their ideas. Instead, they simply change the subject.” Jamie Galbraith
With all due respect, I think you are totally wrong. I wasn't aware that having an ERA of 3.99 was considered mediocre. In today's MLB I consider that damn good. Even if he was mediocre, at least the Reds are willing to spend money now.
Now that's some unassailable logic.
“And when finally they sense that some position cannot be sustained, they do not re-examine their ideas. Instead, they simply change the subject.” Jamie Galbraith
Yet you bemoan the club's penny-pinching in the LaRue deal. Curious.
Nah. Just an observation. As long as they don't ***** about money and say stuff like, "well, we tapped out in signing our bullpen, so we can't pursue a starter," I don't care what they do with their money. I still think picking up Stanton, regardless of money, was a terrible idea, but when you add the possible component of a move like this precluding other moves it becomes almost unbearable.
“And when finally they sense that some position cannot be sustained, they do not re-examine their ideas. Instead, they simply change the subject.” Jamie Galbraith
The slough off a contract and that proves they're cheap. They add a contract and that proves......they're cheap. Wow, tough crowd.
Then explain why it was terrible. I would like to know. Because his ERA was better than a lot of pitchers on the Reds staff. It was just .30 worse than Jason Isringhausen, who is one of the best releivers in the league.
No contradiction in what I'm saying, if you really cared to read my points.
As long as they don't complain about their spending, I don't obviously mind the size of the contracts. But experience tells me we fans will be chastised 8-10 months from now by John Allen, Wayne, & co. for not coming out to see his sub-.500 ballclub lose.
The comment about "terrible move" (though the notion that Mike Stanton would cost anyone $2.75 million is breathtakingly horrible) had very little to do with the dollars per se, but with Stanton as the recipient of those dollars.
“And when finally they sense that some position cannot be sustained, they do not re-examine their ideas. Instead, they simply change the subject.” Jamie Galbraith
He's 40 years old.
He was mediocre last season.
He was mediocre last season in parks that are highly friendly to pitchers (PacBell & RFK).
We have fourteen soft-tossing lefties already on the roster, so it doesn't change the looks opposing teams will get from our bullpen.
“And when finally they sense that some position cannot be sustained, they do not re-examine their ideas. Instead, they simply change the subject.” Jamie Galbraith
ERA is no way to judge relief pitchers.
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