According to Mark Sheldon, Bill Bray still has options remaining.
Out of options
In case you were wondering, the following Reds players head into 2010 Spring Training out of options:
RHP Bronson Arroyo, RHP Homer Bailey, IF/OF Wladimir Balentien, RHP Francisco Cordero, RHP Mike Lincoln and RHP Nick Masset.
http://marksheldon.mlblogs.com/
Hmmm . . . here's what I know about Bray's transactions:
April 5, 2009 - Optioned to Louisville (AAA).
May 9, 2008 - Recalled from Louisville (AAA).
May 5, 2008 - Optioned to Louisville (AAA).
April 28, 2008 - Recalled from Louisville (AAA).
March 28, 2008 - Optioned to Louisville (AAA).
August 11, 2007 - Recalled from Louisville (AAA).
July 20, 2007 - Missed 96 games on the DL (left index finger) and optioned to Louisville.
May 31, 2006 - Contract purchased from New Orleans (AAA)
the options in 2008 count only once i believe.
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Camisadelgolf, as strongly as you feel about Sean Henry, imagined how strongly HE feels about the same thing. Maybe he makes the Triple-A bench. One thing working against him a little is that they don't have enought outfielders in Double-A. Maybe they send Kevin West to Carolina and keep Henry in Louisville. The first time I saw Henry, I was surprised by how small he was. Built like a Lance Johnson but unfortunately without the speed. I would like to see him get a chance in Triple-A too.
Mike Griffin and Eric Eymann are in kind of the same position as Henry, guys who I am sure believe they have nothing to prove going back to Double-A, but might have to go back anyway. You could see a trade with a guy like that if they find another org that needs depth in Triple-A and has an abundance of players at a position where the Reds have a hole.
No way do I see Hamilton in Dayton. He hit .205 in the GCL. Hopefully he hits .260 in Billings. Gregorius will be the Dayton shortstop. Boxberger may make some starts to get innings. Longterm, he is a reliever most likely.
For those who like to follow the rosters during the season, one big change you will see this year:
For the past several years, if the high-A club in Sarasota needed a player for a couple of weeks or less, they would just bring someone over from the minor league complex (extended spring guys in the first half, GCL guys in the second half). It saved the cost of a plane ticket and saved a player the trouble of having to pack up and move to a new city, find a new place to live, etc. Therefore, you saw Gregorius in high-A, Puckett in high-A in '08, and countless other examples of this happening.
That obviously will change in 2010 and beyond. The extended spring guys and the AZL guys (who replaced the GCL) are now a long way from any of the affiliates. There would be nothing to gain by moving those guys up for short term needs.
Adjustments will have to be made. You may not see as many moves, period. You probably will see each club carry a player on the phantom DL who can be activated immediately if a need arises. You may see some teams have to play a little short-handed for a few days in some cases. Players may have to play positions for a few games that they might not have been asked to play in past years. In short, it will not be as easy to make short-term changes if a pitcher has to miss a start or a position player has to miss a week or so. If Lynchburg needs a player, he will not be walking over from the other side of the property. It probably will result in some tougher decisions for the farm director on when to make changes, which players to leave where they are, and which players to put on a plane.
Long-term changes should not be affected.
Which begs the questions, do you see the club moving any of their minor league affiliates to AZ anytime soon, particularly Lynchburg or is that a permanent situation?
The high A team will not be going to Arizona because there isn't a league there for High A. It will have to be in the Florida State League, Carolina League (where they are now) or the California League.Originally Posted by thorn
The rookie level team (not Billings) will play in the Arizona League this season.
I put my list together without giving it too much thought and it does not seem to let me go back and edit it but yes, Leake should be in the Carolina rotation, bumping Webb to the bullpen or back to Lynchburg. Boxberger should be a starter with Lynchburg, not a reliever.
The whole thing is just a guess of course. I would imagine that for each club, there are 15-18 players locked in and the other roster spots will be decided based on spring training, injuries, and related trickle down based on what Dusty does with the big club. We don't know who the 15-18 are and we sure don't know the rest.
Chapman, as some may know, is living in Florida with Dayton pitching coach Tony Fossas, a native of Cuba, and Fossas is a good person to put into a mentor role for a Spanish speaking player. No one has any idea what to expect from Chapman. He could make the big league club. He could go to spring training and start throwing like Nuke Laloosh before Crash Davis got to town. His performance will dictate his assignment. The Fossas connection leads to speculation that Chapman could start the year by making a couple of starts with Dayton to get his feet wet. On the other hand, they could just as easily just send Fossas to Carolina to stay with Chapman (ala Johnny Narron-Josh Hamilton) and send a different pitching coach to Dayton, like Bob Forsch. It will be interesting to watch.
Almost completely ignored has been the hires of former big leaguers David Bell, Tony Fossas, Bob Forsch and Delino DeShields by the Jocketty FO. There may be others. I like these moves. Ex big leaguers, so long as they're quality role models, will get the attention of kids trying to make it.
Here's a stab at it. I haven't made any corrections to it in a while, but this is about as close as I can get right now.
Code:Pos MLB AAA AA A+ A Rk AZL C Ramon Hernandez Corky Miller Devin Mesoraco KevinCoddington Mark Fleury Trey Manz Tucker Barnhart 1B Joey Votto Yonder Alonso Logan Parker Kyle Day Chris Richburg Tom Nurre Derrick Lowery 2B BrandonPhillips Chris Valaika Jake Kahaulelio Alex Buchholz Yen-Wen Kuo Henry Rodriguez Mauricio Pimentel 3B Scott Rolen Todd Frazier Eric Eymann Nefi Soto Carlos Mendez Oliver Santos Cristobal Rodriguez SS Orlando Cabrera Zack Cozart Kris Negron Miguel Rojas Didi Gregorius BillyHamilton Junior Arias LF WladimirBalentenJuan Francisco Sean Danielson Byron Wiley Sean Conner EfrainContreras Theo Bowe CF Drew Stubbs Chris Heisey Dave Sappelt Josh Fellhauer Alex Oliveras YormanRodriguez Juan Silva RF Jay Bruce Danny Dorn Sean Henry Justin Reed Andrew Means Carter Morrison Juan Duran C Ryan Hanigan BrandonYarbroughJason Bour Chris McMurray Jordan Wideman Danny Vicioso Yovan Gonzalez C Chris Denove Chase Weems C 1B Kevin West Donald Lutz Dave Stewart 2B Aaron Miles Miguel Cairo Jose Castro Jose Gualdron John Dao Jefry Sierra 3B Cody Puckett Frank Pfister Will Stramp SS Paul Janish Chris Burke Shane Carlson OF Chris Dickerson Laynce Nix Denis Phipps Albert Laboy Tony Brown Josh Garton Dayne Read OF Luis Terrero Carson Kainer Stephen Chapman OF Josh Anderson UT Drew Sutton Wilkin Castillo Mike Griffin Kevyn Feiner Ryan Doran SP Aaron Harang Daryl Thompson Mike Leake Matt Fairel Kyle Lotzkar Harold Johnson Jesus Adames SP Bronson Arroyo Travis Wood Aroldis Chapman Mark Serrano J.C. Sulbaran Daniel Tuttle Mike Henry SP Johnny Cueto Sam LeCure Jeremy Horst Lance Janke EvanHildenbrandtBlair Carson Ricky Bowen SP Homer Bailey Matt Klinker Dallas Buck Travis Webb Oscar Castro Tim Crabbe Nick Christiani SP Matt Maloney Justin Lehr Scott Carroll Josh Ravin Tyler Cline Luca Panerati Jake Wiley SP Edinson Volquez*Jordan Smith James Avery Curtis Partch Tzu-Kai Chiu Chase Ware Adian Kummet RP FranciscoCorderoPedro Viola Sean Watson Mace Thurman Brad Boxberger Brian Pearl Jamie Walczak RP Nick Masset EnerioDelRosarioRuben Medina JordanHotchkiss PedroVillarreal Nate Driessen Jason Braun RP Jared Burton Logan Ondrusek Ramon Geronimo Aguido Gonzalez Doug Salinas Marcos Molina Forest Cannon RP Micah Owings Carlos Fisher Phil Valiquette Scott Gaffney Justin Freeman Junior Martinez Mike Konstanty RP Arthur Rhodes Lee Tabor Derrik Lutz Drew Bowman Mike Bohana MatteoPizziconi Po-Cheng Chi RP DanielRayHerreraJoe Krebs Terrell Young Donnie Joseph EzequielInfante Mitch Clarke Arshwin Asjes RP Mike Lincoln Bill Bray Misael DeJesus Jeff Jeffords Josh Beal Stephen Smith RP Ben Jukich# Federico Baez Luis Montano Steve Otterness Hector Santana Raul Rodriguez RP Chad Reineke Tom Cochran Justin Walker RP Jesus Delgado Alex Smit RP Jon Adkins RP Jose Arredondo*
Last edited by camisadelgolf; 02-10-2010 at 12:03 PM. Reason: added Herrera and demoted Bray
While that last part may be true and we all know someone almost always lands somewhere unexpectedly every year I think yours is about how the majority would see it (with the Leake/Boxberger corrections).
"You can't let praise or criticism get to you. It's a weakness to get caught up in either one."
--Woody Hayes
Cam you missed Danny Ray Herrera.
"You can't let praise or criticism get to you. It's a weakness to get caught up in either one."
--Woody Hayes
Nice work, golf. Those pitching staffs seem especially impressive, although, through injuries, they're almost never what they promise to be. In particular, I have doubts that the Dayton rotation will materialize as it appears it could. Lotzkar and Hildrenbrandt are of course coming off injuries, so I suppose there's no telling when they'll be available. I'd be surprised to see Cline start out there, but I guess it's conceivable.
We're all aware of the depth at shortstop, but the string of center fielders stands out as well. There's not a non-prospect in the bunch.
It's hard to imagine the rookie-through-AA teams being as non-competitive as they were last year.
Thanks. I meant to put him up with the Reds when I heard that Bray had an option left.
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