Trade Leake this week. His trade value will never be higher than this morning!
Trade Leake this week. His trade value will never be higher than this morning!
"This isn’t stats vs scouts - this is stats and scouts working together, building an organization that blends the best of both worlds. This is the blueprint for how a baseball organization should be run. And, whether the baseball men of the 20th century like it or not, this is where baseball is going."---Dave Cameron, U.S.S. Mariner
"This isn’t stats vs scouts - this is stats and scouts working together, building an organization that blends the best of both worlds. This is the blueprint for how a baseball organization should be run. And, whether the baseball men of the 20th century like it or not, this is where baseball is going."---Dave Cameron, U.S.S. Mariner
Why are people saying Leake offers stability and is less likely to get injured than Latos? I just don't think there's anything real to back that up.
Leake isn't the best pitcher of the bunch. He's the Reds 4th best starting pitcher, and he might be 5th by the end of the year (hell he might be 6th if you include Stephenson). There's nothing wrong with that, either. Good pitcher, really nice guy to have in your rotation.
"This isn’t stats vs scouts - this is stats and scouts working together, building an organization that blends the best of both worlds. This is the blueprint for how a baseball organization should be run. And, whether the baseball men of the 20th century like it or not, this is where baseball is going."---Dave Cameron, U.S.S. Mariner
he could be the best of the bunch because he propably pitch longer than those other guys.
he could be arroyo 2.0 with better results... I like to see him in a reds uniform!
Last edited by tomnuetten; 04-16-2014 at 09:58 AM.
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I would bet the farm that Latos pitches more major league innings than Leake.
Stop saying Leake is like Arroyo because neither throw hard. There are plenty of soft tossers who have blown their arm out. Arroyo is a freak and has nothing to do with Leake.
And I hope/think the Reds will keep Leake around because he's a productive player who won't break the bank. Doesn't mean he won't get hurt, though.
Mike Leake is the first "scrappy" pitcher the Reds have had in awhile, everyone knows what "scrappy" gets you in Cincinnati, press, adulation and eventually anger when "scrappy" loses it's 'S'.
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Yea, I do not see how Leake is scrappy. He has been getting good results, of course fans are going to support him.
Scrappy is not being the BMOC, scrappy is being smaller than the tree trunks on the staff, scrappy is being derided for the success one has obtained.
Scrappy isn't always David Eckstein
Leake and Arroyo are similar in that they do not appear to be high effort throwers.
But they are very different pitchers. Leake is a ground ball pitcher and Arroyo is not.
They throw different pitches, and Arroyo seems more deceptive changing speeds at this stage.
Very different, but hopefully share the durability factor.
Last edited by Kc61; 04-16-2014 at 10:26 AM.
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"This isn’t stats vs scouts - this is stats and scouts working together, building an organization that blends the best of both worlds. This is the blueprint for how a baseball organization should be run. And, whether the baseball men of the 20th century like it or not, this is where baseball is going."---Dave Cameron, U.S.S. Mariner
The point to the thread is - Leake's overall numbers could end up being better, period. All factors included. He's underrated because he doesn't have a power arm or blow people away, so therefore he doesn't stick out or he's not who you think of when you think of top pitchers. It's bottom line - when all their careers are over - Leake could end up have better numbers than all of them.
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