Can Homer win 20 games? - RedsZone.com - Cincinnati Reds Fans' Home for Baseball Discussion

icehole3 · 02-13-2013, 06:26 PM

I think this is the year he puts it all together, I feel it in my big gut.

If not 20 what kind of numbers do you project?

dougdirt · 02-13-2013, 06:46 PM

I hate projecting wins for a pitcher because it is largely out of their control. But, I think he will be darn good with an ERA around 3.50.

SweetLou1990 · 02-13-2013, 06:57 PM

16, and I base that upon nothing. With another no hitter.

Vottomatic · 02-13-2013, 06:58 PM

He won me over the second half of last year. The light went on and he was dominant. He got stronger as the season went on.

Anything is possible.

AtomicDumpling · 02-13-2013, 07:00 PM

I think the Reds will win 20+ of the games he starts, but couldn't care less whether Homer or another pitcher gets credited with the W.

Tom Servo · 02-13-2013, 07:07 PM

Anybody can do anything.

Will he? Probably not.

_Sir_Charles_ · 02-13-2013, 07:45 PM

I think the Reds will get MULTIPLE 20 game winners and Homer will be one of them.

RedsfaninMT · 02-13-2013, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_

I think the Reds will get MULTIPLE 20 game winners and Homer will be one of them.

Easy now. If they stay healthy the staff might have a couple of 18 game winners. I'd be thrilled with 3 winning 16+ games, but without looking it up, I can't remember the last time a team had MULTIPLE 20 game winners.

The dominant staff of my lifetime (and according to ESPN, any lifetime) was the Braves staff of Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz, Millwood, Negale, and IIRC there weren't even two 20 game winners there, but I sure could be wrong about that.

No doubt somebody on here knows immediately the last team with 2 20 game winners?

LegallyMinded · 02-13-2013, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RedsfaninMT

No doubt somebody on here knows immediately the last team with 2 20 game winners?

Looks like it was Curt Schilling and Randy Johnson in 2002. Incidentally, they did it in 2001, as well.

What do you think-- Cueto and Latos as the next Schilling and Johnson? It's fun to dream I suppose

smixsell · 02-13-2013, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_

I think the Reds will get MULTIPLE 20 game winners and Homer will be one of them.

I won't predict it, but I think it is a plausible scenario.

The Operator · 02-13-2013, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RedsfaninMT

No doubt somebody on here knows immediately the last team with 2 20 game winners?

They weren't the last to do it, but Dave Stewart and Bob Welch both won 20 (27 for Welch, IIRC) in 1990.

...And then The Reds promptly dispatched them big-time in the WS.

Puffy · 02-13-2013, 09:45 PM

No.

Tadasimha · 02-13-2013, 09:54 PM

Can he? Yes, he could. He showed the stuff to be a good enough pitcher to pull it off last year. So did Cueto and Latos, which shows (as has been pointed out before) that the probability of it happening is pretty low.

Will he? Only one way to find out - and the season can't start soon enough!

RedsfaninMT · 02-13-2013, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by The Operator

They weren't the last to do it, but Dave Stewart and Bob Welch both won 20 (27 for Welch, IIRC) in 1990.

...And then The Reds promptly dispatched them big-time in the WS.

My memory sure ain't what it used to be, but I fondly remember that, especially given that the other 3 living in my quad-plex out here, at the time, were all from the Bay Area and kept telling me that eventually, the Reds would get their comeuppance. They were sure that was the case when Eric the Red went out.

bigredmechanism · 02-13-2013, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Puffy

No.

02-13-2013, 06:26 PM	#1
icehole3 Member Join Date: May 2000 Posts: 3,027	Can Homer win 20 games? I think this is the year he puts it all together, I feel it in my big gut. If not 20 what kind of numbers do you project?

02-13-2013, 06:46 PM	#2
dougdirt The Boss Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 30,696	Re: Can Homer win 20 games? I hate projecting wins for a pitcher because it is largely out of their control. But, I think he will be darn good with an ERA around 3.50. __________________ www.redsminorleagues.com

02-13-2013, 06:57 PM	#3
SweetLou1990 Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: West Central Ohio Posts: 170	Re: Can Homer win 20 games? 16, and I base that upon nothing. With another no hitter. __________________ Pete Campbell: A man like you I'd follow into combat blindfolded, and I wouldn't be the first. Am I right, buddy? Don Draper: Let's take it a little slower. I don't want to wake up pregnant.

02-13-2013, 06:58 PM	#4
Vottomatic All work and no play..... Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Lebanon Posts: 6,781	Re: Can Homer win 20 games? He won me over the second half of last year. The light went on and he was dominant. He got stronger as the season went on. Anything is possible. __________________ "I can't take this homerism anymore." - 10xWSChamps, August 11, 2010. A Cardinals fan having a problem with all the homerism on Redszone. Classic. "Man do I miss the days where were didn't need a calculator and an encyclopedia of baseball metrics to enjoy a baseball game ... - MikeS21" - 8/2/12 game thread

02-13-2013, 07:00 PM	#5
AtomicDumpling KungFu Fighter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Hamilton, OH Posts: 2,324	Re: Can Homer win 20 games? I think the Reds will win 20+ of the games he starts, but couldn't care less whether Homer or another pitcher gets credited with the W.

02-13-2013, 07:07 PM	#6
Tom Servo thirsty and miserable Join Date: May 2006 Location: NJ/NY Posts: 5,397	Re: Can Homer win 20 games? Anybody can do anything. Will he? Probably not. __________________ "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

02-13-2013, 07:45 PM	#7
_Sir_Charles_ 2013 NL MVP and WS MVP Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 6,363	Re: Can Homer win 20 games? I think the Reds will get MULTIPLE 20 game winners and Homer will be one of them. __________________

02-13-2013, 09:45 PM	#12
Puffy Puffy 3:16 Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Panama City Beach Posts: 13,668	Re: Can Homer win 20 games? No. __________________ "I came here to kick ass and chew bubble gum... and I'm all out of bubble gum." - - Rowdy Roddy Piper "It takes a big man to admit when he is wrong. I am not a big man" - - Fletch

02-13-2013, 09:54 PM	#13
Tadasimha Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Quad Cities Posts: 388	Re: Can Homer win 20 games? Can he? Yes, he could. He showed the stuff to be a good enough pitcher to pull it off last year. So did Cueto and Latos, which shows (as has been pointed out before) that the probability of it happening is pretty low. Will he? Only one way to find out - and the season can't start soon enough! __________________ If evolution is outlawed, only outlaws will evolve!

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