Tony Cingrani Thread - RedsZone.com - Cincinnati Reds Fans' Home for Baseball Discussion

Caveat Emperor · 04-24-2013, 08:14 AM

2 GS, 12 IP, 10 H, 3 BB, 17 K, 2.25 ERA

All the usual caveats (pun intended) apply: Small sample size. He's only faced the Marlins and Cubs (baseball's equivalent of remedial english). His secondary offerings are a work in progress. Blah blah.

What do you do with Mr. Cingrani if he continues to pitch like this until Cueto is ready to come off the DL?

mth123 · 04-24-2013, 08:18 AM

http://www.redszone.com/forums/showp...&postcount=265

holster10 · 04-24-2013, 08:29 AM

Much is to be made that Cingrani faced both the Cubs and Marlins thus far. Still, he has made some quality MLB hitters look bad while striking out.

I like his composure and moxy on the mound. Can't argue with his success to date because the guy gets results.

Vottomatic · 04-24-2013, 08:32 AM

Cingrani has been my favorite prospect all during last season and going into this season.

As much as I'm excited about what he's done so far at the major league level. I just wonder if he wouldn't be better off spending more time at Louisville working on additional pitches.

bucksfan2 · 04-24-2013, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Vottomatic

Cingrani has been my favorite prospect all during last season and going into this season.

As much as I'm excited about what he's done so far at the major league level. I just wonder if he wouldn't be better off spending more time at Louisville working on additional pitches.

I don't know. Right now Cingraini is good enough to get major league hitters out with mostly two pitches. He does need that 3rd pitch, and at times when he throws it, it does look good. If he goes to AAA and dominates I wonder how much he is going to use his breaking pitches.

If he is able to develop a reliable 3rd pitch watch out.

jhu1321 · 04-24-2013, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Vottomatic

Cingrani has been my favorite prospect all during last season and going into this season.

As much as I'm excited about what he's done so far at the major league level. I just wonder if he wouldn't be better off spending more time at Louisville working on additional pitches.

Agree, eventually only having two reliable pitches will lead to trouble. Stash him in AAA when Cueto gets back and have him ready in case of another injury. Next year he takes Bronson's spot in the 5 man.

Tom Servo · 04-24-2013, 09:11 AM

He's ready, brother.

Jamz · 04-24-2013, 09:17 AM

I think the verdict is still out. I know people are saying that players will adjust to his 'deceptiveness' but that was expected to happen every time he moved up. He's only improved each year and his stuff still seems pretty hard to hit so far at this level too.

I'd like to see either Arroyo or Leake move to the bullpen if he continues to pitch well.

mdccclxix · 04-24-2013, 09:28 AM

I didn't see the game last night, but I'm pretty sure I'll see him in person in DC. Crossing my fingers he pitches well.

malcontent · 04-24-2013, 10:32 AM

I love the kid. So nice to have a lefty in the rotation.

paulrichjr · 04-24-2013, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Jamz

I think the verdict is still out. I know people are saying that players will adjust to his 'deceptiveness' but that was expected to happen every time he moved up. He's only improved each year and his stuff still seems pretty hard to hit so far at this level too.

I'd like to see either Arroyo or Leake move to the bullpen if he continues to pitch well.

Arroyo to bullpen? Seriously? What does this guy have left to prove to Reds fans?

Benihana · 04-24-2013, 11:14 AM

When Cueto comes back 2-3 weeks from now:

IF Cingrani continues to dominate
IF Leake continues to pitch as well as he has the last couple outings

Trade Leake.

holster10 · 04-24-2013, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by malcontent

I love the kid. So nice to have a lefty in the rotation.

Agree. Great to finally have a lefty in the rotation again.

Another observation, Cingrani has the ability to add and subtract from his fastball. When he needs it, he can dial it up to 94-95 mph.

Homer Bailey · 04-24-2013, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Benihana

When Cueto comes back 2-3 weeks from now:

IF Cingrani continues to dominate
IF Leake continues to pitch as well as he has the last couple outings

Trade Leake.

This is not fantasy baseball.

The first few starts of Cingrani's career should not determine whether or not the Reds should trade a guy whose been in their starting rotation for over 3 years now.

Pitching depth is always a good thing to have. Mike Leake is a solid, not outstanding pitcher. His value on the trade market is far from anything special, and is likely worth a lot more to the Reds than what he could fetch in a trade.

Nothing that happens over the next couple of weeks should decide Mike Leake's future with the team. (And I'm far from even being a Mike Leake fan).

kaldaniels · 04-24-2013, 11:41 AM

I have seen it mentioned in the minors Cingrani threw fastballs 90 percent of the time. What has that percentage been in his 2 starts in Cincinnati?

04-24-2013, 08:14 AM	#1
Caveat Emperor Titanic Struggles Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The 513 Posts: 12,129	Tony Cingrani Thread 2 GS, 12 IP, 10 H, 3 BB, 17 K, 2.25 ERA All the usual caveats (pun intended) apply: Small sample size. He's only faced the Marlins and Cubs (baseball's equivalent of remedial english). His secondary offerings are a work in progress. Blah blah. What do you do with Mr. Cingrani if he continues to pitch like this until Cueto is ready to come off the DL? __________________ Championships Matter. 22 Years and Counting...

04-24-2013, 08:18 AM	#2
mth123 The Big Dog Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 12,655	Re: Tony Cingrani Thread http://www.redszone.com/forums/showp...&postcount=265 __________________ "All I can tell them is pick a good one and sock it." --BABE RUTH Having better players makes "the right time" or "the big hit" happen a lot more often. PLUS PLUS

04-24-2013, 08:29 AM	#3
holster10 Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 146	Re: Tony Cingrani Thread Much is to be made that Cingrani faced both the Cubs and Marlins thus far. Still, he has made some quality MLB hitters look bad while striking out. I like his composure and moxy on the mound. Can't argue with his success to date because the guy gets results.

04-24-2013, 08:32 AM	#4
Vottomatic All work and no play..... Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Lebanon Posts: 6,725	Re: Tony Cingrani Thread Cingrani has been my favorite prospect all during last season and going into this season. As much as I'm excited about what he's done so far at the major league level. I just wonder if he wouldn't be better off spending more time at Louisville working on additional pitches. __________________ "I can't take this homerism anymore." - 10xWSChamps, August 11, 2010. A Cardinals fan having a problem with all the homerism on Redszone. Classic. "Man do I miss the days where were didn't need a calculator and an encyclopedia of baseball metrics to enjoy a baseball game ... - MikeS21" - 8/2/12 game thread

04-24-2013, 09:11 AM	#7
Tom Servo thirsty and miserable Join Date: May 2006 Location: NJ/NY Posts: 5,381	Re: Tony Cingrani Thread He's ready, brother. __________________ "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

04-24-2013, 09:28 AM	#9
mdccclxix Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,652	Re: Tony Cingrani Thread I didn't see the game last night, but I'm pretty sure I'll see him in person in DC. Crossing my fingers he pitches well.

04-24-2013, 10:32 AM	#10
malcontent malingered here too long Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 1,972	Re: Tony Cingrani Thread I love the kid. So nice to have a lefty in the rotation.

04-24-2013, 11:14 AM	#12
Benihana Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 8,404	Re: Tony Cingrani Thread When Cueto comes back 2-3 weeks from now: IF Cingrani continues to dominate IF Leake continues to pitch as well as he has the last couple outings Trade Leake. __________________ Go BLUE!!!

04-24-2013, 11:41 AM	#15
kaldaniels Viva la Rolen Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 6,301	Re: Tony Cingrani Thread I have seen it mentioned in the minors Cingrani threw fastballs 90 percent of the time. What has that percentage been in his 2 starts in Cincinnati?

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