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RedLegSuperStar · 11-09-2011, 06:39 PM

The Miami Marlins are in on what seems like everybody this offseason and are going all in. They are going after a 3rd Championship in 15 years. The Reds Have only had one playoff appearance in that time. Who's committed to winning? I know the Reds are building within and drafting and doing things the cheap way but by not adding to this team in 2 years then this team really has to ask it self it it truly wants to bring winning baseball back to Cincinnati. Joey Votto will be a free agent soon and the time to build on this club is now. It's truly beating a dead horse but sometimes you got to either produce on your promises or stop promising.

Vottomatic · 11-09-2011, 06:47 PM

"We're simply not going to lose anymore" - Bob Castellini when firing Wayne Krivsky

Tom Servo · 11-09-2011, 07:42 PM

Let's not start anointing Loria and the Marlins saints, they haven't actually done anything yet.

edabbs44 · 11-09-2011, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Servo

Let's not start anointing Loria and the Marlins saints, they haven't actually done anything yet.

Seriously.

RedLegSuperStar · 11-09-2011, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by edabbs44

Seriously.

They haven't? They've gotten me excited about Marlins baseball. They've got me interested in who they are perusing. The have a new name, look, and stadium. They are getting there players excited about potential free agents. They are getting their manager in full recruit mode.

I'm a Reds fan first and foremost but if this team isn't going to improve then I got to just be a baseball fan.

Chip R · 11-09-2011, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RedLegSuperStar

They haven't? They've gotten me excited about Marlins baseball. They've got me interested in who they are perusing. The have a new name, look, and stadium. They are getting there players excited about potential free agents. They are getting their manager in full recruit mode.

And eventually they will sell off those players just like they did before.

Patrick Bateman · 11-10-2011, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by RedLegSuperStar

They haven't? They've gotten me excited about Marlins baseball. They've got me interested in who they are perusing. The have a new name, look, and stadium. They are getting there players excited about potential free agents. They are getting their manager in full recruit mode.

I'm a Reds fan first and foremost but if this team isn't going to improve then I got to just be a baseball fan.

I think edabbs was alluding to actual things that people care about.

Getting you to care based on turning the wheel to start-up the rumour mill isn't actually doing anything.

The Cubs did that 5 years ago and rued the day.

The Reds have issues, and there are far easier ways to criticize them rather than putting them down because another team is out rumouring the Reds 52-0.

klw · 11-10-2011, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by RedLegSuperStar

They haven't? They've gotten me excited about Marlins baseball. They've got me interested in who they are perusing. The have a new name, look, and stadium. They are getting there players excited about potential free agents. They are getting their manager in full recruit mode.

I'm a Reds fan first and foremost but if this team isn't going to improve then I got to just be a baseball fan.

On a related note today the Cincinnati Reds have announced a press conference for 3:30 this afternoon. At the conference, the Reds will announce a change in their name to the the Hamilton County Redlegs. Their new uni's will be softball compression shorts worn over red lycra tights and the tops will be loose cotton t-shirts with flashdance width necks and cut off sleeves.

westofyou · 11-10-2011, 10:12 AM

The Marlins??

Envy?

Lessons to learn from them?

Laughable

Always Red · 11-10-2011, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by RedLegSuperStar

They haven't? They've gotten me excited about Marlins baseball. They've got me interested in who they are perusing. The have a new name, look, and stadium. They are getting there players excited about potential free agents. They are getting their manager in full recruit mode.

I'm a Reds fan first and foremost but if this team isn't going to improve then I got to just be a baseball fan.

Sounds like their off season marketing plan to sell season ticket packages to the locals is working just fine here in Ohio!

PuffyPig · 11-10-2011, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by RedLegSuperStar

It's truly beating a dead horse but sometimes you got to either produce on your promises or stop promising.

Get back to us when the Marlins actually "produce on their promises".

TRF · 11-10-2011, 12:43 PM

Marlins 1997 WS Champs
Marlins 2003 WS Champs

Reds 1997 3rd in Central Division
Reds 2003 5th in Central Division

hmmm. perhaps the marlins know SOMETHING. They aren't perfect, but they do seem to have a model for recycling success. And that team is on the cusp of success again. Stanton, Morrison, Hanley and add Reyes, that's a solid offensive core. Put Bonifacio in CF, he's your leadoff hitter. The rotation needs some health, and maybe one more starter. They can contend in the NL East.

As for learning, how about this, you move into a new stadium, you get a new name and look, you make a big FA splash. Seems like a plan to me.

Caveman Techie · 11-10-2011, 12:45 PM

A long time ago, in the time of leatherpants. The Reds were involved in a lot of rumors. Nothing ever really came of them though except for disappointment and I for one don't want to return to those days.

As for the Marlins, being involved in rumors and actually landing the free agents are two totally different things.

westofyou · 11-10-2011, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TRF

Marlins 1997 WS Champs
Marlins 2003 WS Champs

Reds 1997 3rd in Central Division
Reds 2003 5th in Central Division

hmmm. perhaps the marlins know SOMETHING. They aren't perfect, but they do seem to have a model for recycling success. And that team is on the cusp of success again. Stanton, Morrison, Hanley and add Reyes, that's a solid offensive core. Put Bonifacio in CF, he's your leadoff hitter. The rotation needs some health, and maybe one more starter. They can contend in the NL East.

As for learning, how about this, you move into a new stadium, you get a new name and look, you make a big FA splash. Seems like a plan to me.

How many rings does Loria have? And how many franchises has he trashed?

Reds/Flyers Fan · 11-10-2011, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Chip R

And eventually they will sell off those players just like they did before.

With yet another trophy in the trophy case.

I'd take that tradeoff.

11-09-2011, 06:39 PM	#1
RedLegSuperStar Greatness In The Making Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 4,078	Reds; Take Note From The Marlins The Miami Marlins are in on what seems like everybody this offseason and are going all in. They are going after a 3rd Championship in 15 years. The Reds Have only had one playoff appearance in that time. Who's committed to winning? I know the Reds are building within and drafting and doing things the cheap way but by not adding to this team in 2 years then this team really has to ask it self it it truly wants to bring winning baseball back to Cincinnati. Joey Votto will be a free agent soon and the time to build on this club is now. It's truly beating a dead horse but sometimes you got to either produce on your promises or stop promising. __________________ "I could watch video of Griffey swinging all day. It's like baseball porn." - C. Trent Rosecrans 2008 Reds Record When I Attend: 9W - 5L 2009 Reds Record When I Attend: 1W - 2L 2010 Reds Record When I Attend: 1W - 0L 2011 Reds Record When I Attend: 0W - 1L

11-09-2011, 06:47 PM	#2
Vottomatic All work and no play..... Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Lebanon Posts: 6,847	Re: Reds; Take Note From The Marlins "We're simply not going to lose anymore" - Bob Castellini when firing Wayne Krivsky __________________ "I can't take this homerism anymore." - 10xWSChamps, August 11, 2010. A Cardinals fan having a problem with all the homerism on Redszone. Classic. "Man do I miss the days where were didn't need a calculator and an encyclopedia of baseball metrics to enjoy a baseball game ... - MikeS21" - 8/2/12 game thread

11-09-2011, 07:42 PM	#3
Tom Servo thirsty and miserable Join Date: May 2006 Location: NJ/NY Posts: 5,421	Re: Reds; Take Note From The Marlins Let's not start anointing Loria and the Marlins saints, they haven't actually done anything yet. __________________ "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

11-10-2011, 10:12 AM	#9
westofyou breath Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: PDX Posts: 39,403	Re: Reds; Take Note From The Marlins The Marlins?? Envy? Lessons to learn from them? Laughable

11-10-2011, 12:43 PM	#12
TRF Vavasor Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Amarillo, TX Posts: 12,680	Re: Reds; Take Note From The Marlins Marlins 1997 WS Champs Marlins 2003 WS Champs Reds 1997 3rd in Central Division Reds 2003 5th in Central Division hmmm. perhaps the marlins know SOMETHING. They aren't perfect, but they do seem to have a model for recycling success. And that team is on the cusp of success again. Stanton, Morrison, Hanley and add Reyes, that's a solid offensive core. Put Bonifacio in CF, he's your leadoff hitter. The rotation needs some health, and maybe one more starter. They can contend in the NL East. As for learning, how about this, you move into a new stadium, you get a new name and look, you make a big FA splash. Seems like a plan to me. __________________ "don't end up with a grandson with a dog collar."

11-10-2011, 12:45 PM	#13
Caveman Techie Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 820	Re: Reds; Take Note From The Marlins A long time ago, in the time of leatherpants. The Reds were involved in a lot of rumors. Nothing ever really came of them though except for disappointment and I for one don't want to return to those days. As for the Marlins, being involved in rumors and actually landing the free agents are two totally different things. __________________ "I have noticed even people who claim everything is predestined, and that we can do nothing to change it, look before they cross the road." Stephen Hawking

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