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09-02-2003, 02:59 PM
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The PTBNL is an OF.
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09-02-2003, 03:00 PM
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09-02-2003, 03:24 PM
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Nope. According to the ESPN.com transactions page its now OF Eric Valent.
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09-02-2003, 03:25 PM
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The Reds didn't pay the $250,000 for a PTNL. Stinnett had the $250 coming to him as an off-season buyout. You have to view it as part of his salary.
Presumably, nobody would agree to pick up both Stinnett's remaining salary and the $250 buy out. So the Reds took (from the Phils) relief from the remaining 2003 salary, but kept the obligation to pay the buy out. In other words, even though the Reds paid money, it was a salary dump. I don't think a great prospect is coming back. |
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09-02-2003, 03:28 PM
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If premature callup can damage a player's future than Valient is exhibit A. On pace to be a solid ML bench player through mid 2001 he suffered a horrendous stint in MLBand hasn't recovered, both his pitch selection and power dropped last year. His only hope to ressurect his career might be elsewhere. |
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09-02-2003, 03:28 PM
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Eric Valent - ML stats
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BREAKDOWN G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS BA OBP SLG OPS CAREER 29 51 4 6 2 0 0 1 4 14 0 0 .118 .196 .157 .353
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09-02-2003, 03:45 PM
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Eric Valent from Phillies
for Stinnett per cnnsi.com transactions.
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09-02-2003, 03:47 PM
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Valent was a top prospect just a year or two ago.... We'll have to go see what he's been up to since then...
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09-02-2003, 03:50 PM
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Valent, Eric >> Scranton/Wilkes-Barre Red Barons (AAA)
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AVG G AB R H RBI 2B 3B HR BB SO SB CS .218 134 450 62 98 51 27 2 12 60 102 0 0 |
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09-02-2003, 03:50 PM
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Where's my chair?
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Does Valent have any tools?
 Not that I expected much from Stinnet though
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09-02-2003, 03:55 PM
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WLW reported that he was the Phillies number 1 outfield prospect.
They also said he was 26 years old.
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09-02-2003, 03:59 PM
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09-02-2003, 04:11 PM
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The Lineups stink.
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If he was the Phils number 1 outfield prospect, that farm system must be in really bad shape.
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09-02-2003, 04:25 PM
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He is probably not the Phils #1 guy but he is close. He has bigtime natural power (more college HR's then Troy Glaus at UCLA) he has tools, he is said to have a cannon from the OF he is a corner OF not enough speed or natural instincts for CF. He strikes out a ton though but he can draw a walk. He is a run producer (has driven in close to 80 every season in the minors). He is the classic "change of scenery could help" guy. He still has time but his star has faded big time. That being said he could be a very very good player, but with Kearns, Dunn, Pena, Smitherman, and Mateo I don't see where he fits in with this team. He is older then all of them and not all that much more advanced then any of them.
NOTE: His last very good season was 2001 where he hit .272/.352/489 at AAA. Also had 21 HR's and 78 RBI. |
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