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Old 06-30-2004, 10:32 PM   #1
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All you Lidle bashers can eat Crow now.

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Old 06-30-2004, 10:36 PM   #2
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Re: All you Lidle bashers can eat Crow now.

Only once all year has Lidle thrown back-to-back non-quality starts.

June 7th, and June 13th.

So, what does the guy do?

He follows that up with back-to-back quality starts June 18th, and June 24th,
throwing 15 innings giving up 15 hits, 4 earned runs, 2 walks, with 15 strikeouts.

He's on the verge of putting together a streak of 10 games with 8 quality starts among them. That could be right now.

He hasn't had 3 quality starts in a row all year. Let's see what he does on Tuesday against the Mets as he faces Glavine again.

His last start against the Mets was a day game. His next one will be a night game. This year:

Days 4-1, 3.43 ERA
Night 1-4, 7.33 ERA


Here's also four games where Lidle got a No Decision (all road games with three of them against our main rivals):

@CHI 4/17, 7IP, 2 Runs, 2 Earned Runs
@HOU 5/02, 7IP, 3 Runs, 3 Earned Runs
@FLA 6/02, 7IP, 1 Run, 1 Earned Run
@STL 6/18, 7IP, 2 Runs, 2 Earned Runs

He's proven time and again that he has no problem pitching well against good teams in big games.

You can add tonight's performance against the Mets with 7 shutout innings vs. Glavine to his list of stepping it up against top competition.
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Old 06-30-2004, 10:36 PM   #3
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Re: All you Lidle bashers can eat Crow now.

I don't eat crow over three outings, especially after all his horrendous ones. I hope he's making me eat crow by the end of the year, but this is a little premature.

you willing to eat crow on Jason Lane yet?
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Old 07-01-2004, 01:10 AM   #4
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Re: All you Lidle bashers can eat Crow now.

Lidle pitches well when I'm at the park, no I'm not going to follow the team on the road :
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Old 07-01-2004, 06:41 AM   #5
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Re: All you Lidle bashers can eat Crow now.

Doesn't Lidle have all the Reds complete games this year also?
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Old 07-01-2004, 07:37 AM   #6
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Re: All you Lidle bashers can eat Crow now.

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I don't eat crow over three outings, especially after all his horrendous ones. I hope he's making me eat crow by the end of the year, but this is a little premature.

you willing to eat crow on Jason Lane yet?
No, but I will if he doesn't have as good a year as I said he would this year.

Now, let's win this Mets series and get within 3 games of the Cardinals.
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Old 07-01-2004, 09:29 AM   #7
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Re: All you Lidle bashers can eat Crow now.

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No, but I will if he doesn't have as good a year as I said he would this year.
Biggio, Beltran, and Berkman, dont think he will ever get a chance
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Old 07-01-2004, 09:44 AM   #8
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Re: All you Lidle bashers can eat Crow now.

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Doesn't Lidle have all the Reds complete games this year also?
Yep.

A five Inning- 3 Run rain shortened effort on April 22nd (gets a CG but not a Quality Start), an 8-Inning loss on May 12 where he pitched very well, and a beauty of an effort on May 23rd.

The first CG was flukey if ever flukey there was. The 2nd two were solid efforts (CG losses do happen). When he's good, he can be pretty darn good. But when he's bad he's awful. Thusfar, he's been Hyde too often and Jeckyll too infrequently.
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Old 07-01-2004, 11:12 AM   #9
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Re: All you Lidle bashers can eat Crow now.

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Biggio, Beltran, and Berkman, dont think he will ever get a chance
Instead of moving Biggio back to 2nd, they've sat Lane since Beltran got there. This gives them a much better defense. If they put Biggio at 2nd, they'd have a much better offense.
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Old 07-01-2004, 11:13 AM   #10
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Re: All you Lidle bashers can eat Crow now.

It will be interesting to see if Harang can build upon the five scoreless innings he threw in his last start. (back-to-back shutouts thrown by our #5 starters!, even if they were short outings).

Now to get Acevedo back on track, and we'll start resembling a Major League rotation.
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Old 07-01-2004, 12:24 PM   #11
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Re: All you Lidle bashers can eat Crow now.

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Thusfar, he's been Hyde too often and Jeckyll too infrequently.
In six of his last 10 starts, Lidl has given up 2 ER or less with an average of nearly 8 IP in those six starts.

Perhaps you have it backwards?
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Old 07-01-2004, 12:25 PM   #12
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Re: All you Lidle bashers can eat Crow now.

Lidle's fast becoming tradeable...
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Old 07-01-2004, 12:28 PM   #13
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Re: All you Lidle bashers can eat Crow now.

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If they put Biggio at 2nd, they'd have a much better offense.
How's that? By virtue of sitting Kent so that Lane can play?
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Old 07-01-2004, 12:32 PM   #14
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Re: All you Lidle bashers can eat Crow now.

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How's that? By virtue of sitting Kent so that Lane can play?
I think Kent was going to be moved to third under this proposal and Ensberg sits.
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Old 07-01-2004, 12:35 PM   #15
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How's that? By virtue of sitting Kent so that Lane can play?
Kent goes to third. Sorry I forgot to mention that.
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