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Old 12-12-2004, 07:21 PM   #61
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Re: OPS vs. OBP vs. BAS

It wasn't his contract year.
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Old 12-12-2004, 07:22 PM   #62
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Actually my guess is you prefer the stat sheets or fantasy games to actually WATCHING the games. Myself, I WATCHED 99% of the Reds games on the Extra Innings package (120, 130??) and listened to most of the others.

So yes, I watched with my own eyes WMP making conscious efforts to use the whole field and doing so successfully.

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And where did you find the statistic that told you that?

Oh, let me see, that is anecdotal evidence based on your observation, I get it.
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Old 12-12-2004, 07:25 PM   #63
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Please correct me if wrong regarding his contract. My understanding is that Dunn will presumably be signing a new deal this winter.


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Old 12-12-2004, 07:25 PM   #64
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Actually my guess is you prefer the stat sheets or fantasy games to actually WATCHING the games. Myself, I WATCHED 99% of the Reds games on the Extra Innings package (120, 130??) and listened to most of the others.

So yes, I watched with my own eyes WMP making conscious efforts to use the whole field and doing so successfully.

You watched all those games and you still came up with all this crazy stuff?!?!?!
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Old 12-12-2004, 07:30 PM   #65
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Re: OPS vs. OBP vs. BAS

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So yes, I watched with my own eyes WMP making conscious efforts to use the whole field and doing so successfully.
Did you see with your own eyes that WMP struck out more times per plate appearance than Dunn did?

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Player         Team    PA       K%
Pena W.        CIN     364     30%
Dunn A.        CIN     681     28%
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Old 12-12-2004, 07:31 PM   #66
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Re: OPS vs. OBP vs. BAS

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Please correct me if wrong regarding his contract. My understanding is that Dunn will presumably be signing a new deal this winter.
He's not going to be a free agent. It's arbitration, and players are always playing for raises, it's kinda how professional sports work.
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Re: OPS vs. OBP vs. BAS

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Myself, I WATCHED 99% of the Reds games on the Extra Innings package (120, 130??) and listened to most of the others.
A couch potato, armchair GM, coach and manager. A self-proclaimed expert.

Now I understand.
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Old 12-12-2004, 07:47 PM   #68
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Re: OPS vs. OBP vs. BAS

right.....(sigh).............
he'll be signing a new contract - "contract year" is close enough for me.

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Old 12-12-2004, 07:48 PM   #69
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what ever you say stat rat

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Now I undrstand.
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right.....(sigh).............

You seem to sigh a lot, DunnHater.


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Old 12-12-2004, 07:49 PM   #71
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ah...the old "per plate appearance"......rather than "at bat"....

of course, those invaluable walks to pass a clutch rbi situation on to LaRue or Bragg or who knows who else must be factored in.


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Did you see with your own eyes that WMP struck out more times per plate appearance than Dunn did?

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Player         Team    PA       K%
Pena W.        CIN     364     30%
Dunn A.        CIN     681     28%
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Old 12-12-2004, 07:57 PM   #72
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How would you respond to a guy saying you are wrong for calling this year a "contract year" for Dunn?

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Old 12-12-2004, 08:11 PM   #73
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of course, those invaluable walks to pass a clutch rbi situation on to LaRue or Bragg or who knows who else must be factored in.
Right. Because great hitters swing at Balls.

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Old 12-12-2004, 08:17 PM   #74
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Re: OPS vs. OBP vs. BAS

A contract year implies Dunn is playing for a contract offer from multiple teams. He isn't. He's Reds property. period.

So you don't know the terminolgy.

It's about getting on base, and not making outs. Add to that Dunn's prolific power and incredible SLG and what you have is A HOF player in the making.

Don't hand us any garbage about rbi's. guys have to be on for him to jack one, and it certainly isn't his fault he had no credible protection in the lineup with Jr. and AK hurt most of the year.

You walked into Redszone. This is without a doubt the most intelligent fanzone on the internet. Don't bring the BA, RBI arguement here, it's got no weight. But if it makes you feel better, After Boone left, Dunn's BA jumped 50 points.
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