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guernsey · 07-30-2003, 05:02 PM

Yeah, they just took Valentine out of the report and say 2 minor leaguers instead.

This is a whole lot better than 'cash'.

Golgafrinchan · 07-30-2003, 05:03 PM

Until this year, Joe Valentine was a top RP prospect. Last year he had a 1.97 ERA, and 63 K's in 59+ innings in AA. Relief prospects aren't worth much, but it looks like he has a chance.

red-in-la · 07-30-2003, 05:03 PM

Whever got Harang...make him the next GM!!!!! In light of the Williamson blunder, this looks like a deal for Joe Morgan and Jack Billingham.

guernsey · 07-30-2003, 05:03 PM

The Oakland Athletics, seeking to bolster their lineup, acquired power-hitting outfielder Jose Guillen from the Cincinnati Reds on Wednesday, ESPN's Peter Gammons reports.

In return, the Reds get pitchers Aaron Harang and Joe Valentine, plus an unnamed minor leaguer.

This has been a breakout season for Guillen, despite a logjam of outfielders in Cincinnati for much of the season. Guillen is batting .337 with 23 homers and 63 RBI in just 315 at-bats for the Reds.

Cincinnati continues to unload salaries, even though the Reds fired general manager Jim Bowden and manager Bob Boone on Monday. The Reds shipped closer Scott Williamson to the Red Sox on Tuesday.

The Reds, 47-59 entering play Wednesday, are likely to unload more contracts before Thursday's trade deadline. Aaron Boone, the ousted manager's son, likely will be one of the players sent to a contending club.

The Athletics, in close races for both the AL West title and the wild card, need offensive help. They are hitting just .253 as a team.

Harang, a 25-year-old starting pitcher considered to have a promising future, is 1-3 with a 5.34 ERA in seven games with the Athletics this season.

danforsman · 07-30-2003, 05:03 PM

Maybe the sky's not falling after all...

Only problem is who's going to play RF tonight if Pile-o Cash isn't acquired (trademark on this line belongs to NC Red)

IslandRed · 07-30-2003, 05:04 PM

Looks like Valentine's an arm worth having, too:

http://www.rivercats.com/doc.asp?ID=1674

djeternal · 07-30-2003, 05:05 PM

Harang's good?????

Harang, a 25-year-old starting pitcher considered to have a promising future, is 1-3 with a 5.34 ERA in seven games with the Athletics this season.

Golgafrinchan · 07-30-2003, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by djeternal
Harang's good?????

Harang, a 25-year-old starting pitcher considered to have a promising future, is 1-3 with a 5.34 ERA in seven games with the Athletics this season.

http://www.sports-wired.com/players/...e.asp?ID=20134

He's always had decent K rates, as well as good K/BB ratios throughout the minors.

savafan · 07-30-2003, 05:06 PM

I'm saddened to see Guillen go, as he had become my favorite Red this year, but I'm excited to see what Aaron Harang can do for us. He could be our #1 starter.

djeternal · 07-30-2003, 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Arschloch
http://www.sports-wired.com/players/...e.asp?ID=20134

He's always had decent K rates, as well as good K/BB ratios throughout the minors.

Might be true, but Minors does not equal the Majors.

danforsman · 07-30-2003, 05:07 PM

Link to Joe Valentine on rotoworld.com

http://www.rotoworld.com/display2.as...ers&X=7051&Y=0

Describes Valentine as the "Rich Harden" of the A's minor-league reliever prospects...well, the best minor league relief prospect they've got, at least.

gm · 07-30-2003, 05:08 PM

Billy Beane acquires Jose Guillen = dogs and cats, sleeping together

Take your pick, Dave...Reggie Taylor in CF...or Branyan in RF?

savafan · 07-30-2003, 05:08 PM

Harang has the potential to be a #1

HotCorner · 07-30-2003, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by guernsey
In return, the Reds get pitchers Aaron Harang and Joe Valentine, plus an unnamed minor leaguer.

Is that the same as a PTBNL? Or is he really unnamed?

Quote:

Originally posted by danforsman
Maybe the sky's not falling after all...

Only problem is who's going to play RF tonight if Pile-o Cash isn't acquired (trademark on this line belongs to NC Red)

Can Smitherman make it to GABP in time?

Red Leader · 07-30-2003, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by djeternal
Harang's good?????

He's 25 and just starting to come into his own. He had a pretty good year for the A's last year in his first full go 'round. Trust me, he's a great addition to this club and an improvement over all in our rotation now. I've been saying this is a deal that should be made since about the beginning of June. I can't believe that it actually did happen. To get Valentine and another minor leaguer on top of Harang is just icing on the cake, IMO.

07-30-2003, 05:02 PM	#16
guernsey Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 11,243	Yeah, they just took Valentine out of the report and say 2 minor leaguers instead. This is a whole lot better than 'cash'. __________________ "People that frequent Internet forums resemble the cast of One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest!" - C. J. Cregg, The West Wing

07-30-2003, 05:03 PM	#18
red-in-la Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Santa Paula, CA Posts: 6,536	Whever got Harang...make him the next GM!!!!! In light of the Williamson blunder, this looks like a deal for Joe Morgan and Jack Billingham. __________________ "Is there a problem officers?"

07-30-2003, 05:03 PM	#19
guernsey Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 11,243	The Oakland Athletics, seeking to bolster their lineup, acquired power-hitting outfielder Jose Guillen from the Cincinnati Reds on Wednesday, ESPN's Peter Gammons reports. In return, the Reds get pitchers Aaron Harang and Joe Valentine, plus an unnamed minor leaguer. This has been a breakout season for Guillen, despite a logjam of outfielders in Cincinnati for much of the season. Guillen is batting .337 with 23 homers and 63 RBI in just 315 at-bats for the Reds. Cincinnati continues to unload salaries, even though the Reds fired general manager Jim Bowden and manager Bob Boone on Monday. The Reds shipped closer Scott Williamson to the Red Sox on Tuesday. The Reds, 47-59 entering play Wednesday, are likely to unload more contracts before Thursday's trade deadline. Aaron Boone, the ousted manager's son, likely will be one of the players sent to a contending club. The Athletics, in close races for both the AL West title and the wild card, need offensive help. They are hitting just .253 as a team. Harang, a 25-year-old starting pitcher considered to have a promising future, is 1-3 with a 5.34 ERA in seven games with the Athletics this season. __________________ "People that frequent Internet forums resemble the cast of One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest!" - C. J. Cregg, The West Wing

07-30-2003, 05:06 PM	#24
savafan Maple SERP Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 17,485	I'm saddened to see Guillen go, as he had become my favorite Red this year, but I'm excited to see what Aaron Harang can do for us. He could be our #1 starter. __________________ This is the Cal Ripkin Jr. of typos. If you ask me to join your fantasy baseball league and I select Legolas in the first round, don't be angry at me. It's not my fault I've read up on the players and you haven't.

07-30-2003, 05:08 PM	#27
gm All dyslexics must untie! Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: SW Portland, OR Posts: 8,604	Billy Beane acquires Jose Guillen = dogs and cats, sleeping together Take your pick, Dave...Reggie Taylor in CF...or Branyan in RF? __________________ Never overlook the obvious

07-30-2003, 05:03 PM	#17
Golgafrinchan Telephone Sanitizer Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 158	Until this year, Joe Valentine was a top RP prospect. Last year he had a 1.97 ERA, and 63 K's in 59+ innings in AA. Relief prospects aren't worth much, but it looks like he has a chance.

07-30-2003, 05:03 PM	#20
danforsman Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 556	Maybe the sky's not falling after all... Only problem is who's going to play RF tonight if Pile-o Cash isn't acquired (trademark on this line belongs to NC Red)

07-30-2003, 05:04 PM	#21
IslandRed Charlie Brown All-Star Join Date: May 2001 Location: Mt. Juliet, TN Posts: 4,675	Looks like Valentine's an arm worth having, too: http://www.rivercats.com/doc.asp?ID=1674

07-30-2003, 05:05 PM	#22
djeternal Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: CINCINNATI Posts: 170	Harang's good????? Harang, a 25-year-old starting pitcher considered to have a promising future, is 1-3 with a 5.34 ERA in seven games with the Athletics this season.

07-30-2003, 05:07 PM	#26
danforsman Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 556	Link to Joe Valentine on rotoworld.com http://www.rotoworld.com/display2.as...ers&X=7051&Y=0 Describes Valentine as the "Rich Harden" of the A's minor-league reliever prospects...well, the best minor league relief prospect they've got, at least.

07-30-2003, 05:08 PM	#28
savafan Maple SERP Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 17,485	Harang has the potential to be a #1 __________________ This is the Cal Ripkin Jr. of typos. If you ask me to join your fantasy baseball league and I select Legolas in the first round, don't be angry at me. It's not my fault I've read up on the players and you haven't.

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