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Patient's right to privacy
Whether you're pro-choice or anti-abortion, patient's rights have to be protected. These women aren't even being alerted to the fact that their medical records are being sought. They aren't being given the choice to their own legal battle over their own records. Disgusting.
Kansas AG demands abortion records Full records include women's sexual histories TOPEKA, Kansas (AP) -- The Kansas attorney general is demanding abortion clinics turn over the complete medical records of nearly 90 women and girls, saying he needs the material for an investigation into underage sex and illegal late-term abortions. Two clinics are fighting the request in Kansas Supreme Court, saying the state has no right to such personal information. But Attorney General Phill Kline, an abortion opponent, insisted Thursday: "I have the duty to investigate and prosecute child rape and other crimes in order to protect Kansas children." Kline is seeking the records of girls who had abortions and women who received late-term abortions. Sex involving someone under 16 is illegal in Kansas, and it is illegal in the state for doctors to perform an abortion after 22 weeks unless there is reason to believe it is needed to protect the mother's health. Kline spoke to reporters after details of the secret investigation, which began in October, surfaced in a legal brief filed by attorneys for two medical clinics. The clinics argued that unless the high court intervenes, women who obtained abortions could find government agents knocking at their door. The clinics said Kline demanded their complete, unedited medical records for women who sought abortions at least 22 weeks into their pregnancies in 2003, as well as those for girls 15 and younger who sought abortions. Court papers did not identify the clinics. The records sought include the patient's name, medical history, details of her sex life, birth control practices and psychological profile. The clinics, which said nearly 90 women and girls would be affected, are offering to provide records with some key information, including names, edited out. "These women's rights will be sacrificed if this fishing expedition is not halted or narrowed," the clinics said in court papers. On October 21, state District Judge Richard Anderson ruled that Kline could have the files. The clinics then filed an appeal with the high court. No hearing has been scheduled. The clinics outlined their legal arguments in a brief filed Tuesday. Though other documents in the case remain sealed, the brief filed Tuesday was not, and The Wichita Eagle disclosed Kline's investigation in a story published Thursday. In their brief, the clinics' attorneys said a gag order prevents the clinics from even disclosing to patients that their records are being sought. Attorneys declined to comment Thursday, citing the order. "You can see our desire to discuss as much as possible, but we feel constrained," said attorney Lee Thompson. Thompson declined to say if his client was Dr. George Tiller, whose Wichita clinic is known as a provider of late-term abortions and is a frequent target of abortion opponents. Kline would not discuss the scope of the investigation. Recently, Kline's office helped Texas authorities gather information from Tiller regarding a pregnant teenager who sought his care and died in Kansas. Kline began pushing in 2003 to require health care professionals to report underage sexual activity. Kline contends state law requires such reporting, but a federal judge blocked him. The case has yet to be resolved. |
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Join Date: Apr 2000
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Re: Patient's right to privacy
I am pretty much anti-abortion (I won't get involved in that debate- that isn't what this thread is about)-I only add my stance to make it clear I still think this is a horrible idea with alot of scary ramifications.
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Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Olathe, KS
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Re: Patient's right to privacy
Ugly stuff.
Phill Kline is pretty much a nut-job. He went on a spree last year trying to get certain albums removed from public libraries. Now this.
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Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Olathe, KS
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Re: Patient's right to privacy
Here's more on the story.
http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/10985570.htm Quote:
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Miskatonic University
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Re: Patient's right to privacy
“We think they've been hiding child rape and incest for a long time,” said Mary Kay Culp of Kansans for Life. “They get rid of the evidence.”
Okay, this chick is a retard. Is abortion a "Gateway Sin" now or something? "They abort, so they probably molest children and sacrifice goats to Satan!!!!"
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Re: Patient's right to privacy
Quote:
I once saw Jim Coombs sacrifice a dozen goats!
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Pre-tty, pre-tty good!!
Join Date: Oct 2001
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Re: Patient's right to privacy
Does "underage sex" refer to statutory rape? Or are the referring simply to having sex under age? If it's the latter, I never even knew it was a crime. Things are getting weirder by the minute.
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Join Date: Mar 2003
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Re: Patient's right to privacy
lucky that Kline's not part of the Federal Government...otherwise he would just use the Patriot Act to get what he wants.
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Shut up Spock!
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Hamilton, Ohio
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Re: Patient's right to privacy
Can we have Kline's sexual history and medical records as well???
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Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Beavercreek
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Re: Patient's right to privacy
Witch hunt.
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Join Date: May 2000
Location: Cincinnati, OH
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Re: Patient's right to privacy
I could take this guy's request a little more seriously if he wanted these records for a criminal investigation, i.e. rape or incest. However, would the patient files in the clinics have information about the father in them? I would doubt that they would. If they don't how is gaining access to these records going to help this guy's investigation(s)? Also, I would think there should be a case before one should gain access to these records. He's working backwards here. He wants these records and then he will obstensibly have a case against the father. Even if he did get access to those records and actually got information on the father would there even be a case since there was no probable cause to suspect the father in the first place? If the guy were actually arrested before the records were obtained and they used the records to try to convict him, you wouldn't have to worry about probable cause there. But I really don't think this guy cares about these alleged criminal cases. My guess is that he's looking at the big chair in Topeka or a seat in the US Senate or House.
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