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Reds4Life · 03-10-2005, 11:45 PM

UC loses to South Florida 80-68 in quarter finals of CUSA tourney.

Redsfaithful · 03-11-2005, 02:15 AM

Nice way to leave Conference USA.

KronoRed · 03-11-2005, 02:52 AM

Not a UC fan, but UC didn't need wins in the tourney, USF did...not such a bad thing

SunDeck · 03-11-2005, 12:05 PM

This game pretty much sums up the Huggins tenure for me. Don't get me wrong, I think he's done great things. But his teams have always been plagued by lapses.
Just another day in my love/hate relationship with Bearcat Basketball.
:dflynn: :dflynn: :dflynn:

Reds4Life · 03-11-2005, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SunDeck

This game pretty much sums up the Huggins tenure for me. Don't get me wrong, I think he's done great things. But his teams have always been plagued by lapses.
Just another day in my love/hate relationship with Bearcat Basketball.
:dflynn: :dflynn: :dflynn:

I'm with you SunDeck. I'm starting to wonder how long he's going to last in the BigEast. I wouldn't be suprised if he's canned after next season.

Roy Tucker · 03-11-2005, 12:43 PM

Huggins' teams traditionally can't shoot worth a darn (besides Steve Logan). I couldn't believe the number of bricks they threw up last night. I can shoot better than they can and I'm 52.

Hicks and Maxiell work unbelivably hard and I admire how hard they play, but both have the touch of a bricklayer. And neither can create their own shot besides offensive rebounds.

And someday UC will have a point guard that will guide the team through rough stretches. I thought Muhammad was supposed to be it but he can't seem to break out of his shooting guard mold. That #3 on USF played a great game.

The fact that Huggins plays a walk-on guard during real play time speaks for how thin this team is. I actually think Huggins has done a good job squeezing the most of the talent he has.

Redsfaithful · 03-11-2005, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Reds4Life

I wouldn't be suprised if he's canned after next season.

When Bob Huggins goes the program will fall apart.

What blue chip recruit is going to want to live in Clifton if there's not a name coach there?

RedFanAlways1966 · 03-11-2005, 01:43 PM

Upsets happen and do so a lot in the post-season conf. tournies. I was a bit shocked to see the Bearcts go down to a 212-RPI team (or near 212).

What gets me are Coach Huggs comments on the Bob Huggins WLW show earlier in the week. Huggs was put out by an expert's opinion that UC would probably be a #6 seed in the Big Dance. He went on and on about being one of only two teams in D-I who had lost all of their games to teams that were higher than #50 in the RPI (Syracuse being the other) and how the expert was not so smart. Of course Huggs was "marketing" a high seed for his team as all coaches do. But to lose to South Fla. soon after ripping into the expert for saying they deserve a #6 seed kind of made me chuckle. They will be lucky IMO to get a #6 seed now. It is always "what have you done lately" and that loss may cause a serious dent in their seeding.

Oxilon · 03-11-2005, 03:03 PM

Huggins can't recruit. He needs to stop visiting the junior colleges and actually go to some high schools to talk to some real talent. Their offense is just embarrasing.

Reds4Life · 03-11-2005, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Redsfaithful

When Bob Huggins goes the program will fall apart.

What blue chip recruit is going to want to live in Clifton if there's not a name coach there?

Who says you wouldn't replace him with another "name" coach? When your in the Big East more coaches will be willing to take the job.

Redsfaithful · 03-11-2005, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Reds4Life

Who says you wouldn't replace him with another "name" coach? When your in the Big East more coaches will be willing to take the job.

What name coach would want to coach in Clifton? Its a horrid recruiting situation.

TeamCasey · 03-11-2005, 04:48 PM

My Dad's excited for the Bearcats to join the Big East. Gives us something to needle each other about. (I'm from Syracuse.) He can't wait for the Orangemen to "play against those goons."

DoogMinAmo · 03-11-2005, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Redsfaithful

What name coach would want to coach in Clifton? Its a horrid recruiting situation.

Give it five years, and no one will recognize it. Damn "non-profit" development organizations have bought the entire region, and have already torn down half. Maybe in five years, with the "new Georgetown" and a brand new campus/ Varsity Village, UC won't "need " Huggs anymore.

I agree, too much of a focus on strangling defense and not enough on the other half of the game for all too long leaves UC a few rounds short come tournament time. Huggs lost his opportunity to win it all when Kenyon left, I unfortunately dont see another one coming soon. I hope the Big East brings a better quality player all around, so i am wrong.

SunDeck · 03-11-2005, 05:16 PM

I never liked Bobby Knight much, but the one thing that I did admire was the fact that the first and second half of a game he coaches never look the same. He develops a program for defeating a team and adjusts it in the locker room. All the greats to that- except Huggs.

I like the defense, the work ethic, but for life of me I can not stand watching the Bearcats offense. It's frustrating that they can't get quality one guards.

I don't know about the rap against Clifton. Athletes all live on campus at UC. At least they did when I was there. Their situation is pretty posh- it's not like they have to live over in Coryville. Skip didn't seem to have a problem getting some pretty good point guards to live in Avondale, did he?

Reds/Flyers Fan · 03-11-2005, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DoogMinAmo

Give it five years, and no one will recognize it.

The changes are impressive but there is still that little problem of Over-the-Rhine. No matter what they do, they still can't change the fact that Clifton is surrounded by urban decay in every direction.

As for the Bearcats in the Big East...there is just no way that the conference will survive. It's way to big.

Syracuse, UConn, Pittsburgh, Villanova, Georgetown, Notre Dame, DePaul, Marquette, Cincinnati, Louisville, West Virginia, Providence. No creampuffs there. I agree with John Calipari: someone is going to finish in last place every year and they're not going to like it one bit.

I'm waiting for the Big East's inevitable implosion in 5 years, then the basketball only schools plus ND could be breaking away. Possibly to join Dayton and eggs-avier? I can always hope.

03-10-2005, 11:45 PM	#1
Reds4Life Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 3,918	What an embarassment, UC loses UC loses to South Florida 80-68 in quarter finals of CUSA tourney. __________________ Pessimists are well informed optimists

03-11-2005, 02:15 AM	#2
Redsfaithful A Little to the Left Join Date: May 2002 Location: Bexley, OH Posts: 7,417	Re: What an embarassment, UC loses Nice way to leave Conference USA. __________________ We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars. --Oscar Wilde

03-11-2005, 12:05 PM	#4
SunDeck First Time Caller Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 5,227	Re: What an embarassment, UC loses This game pretty much sums up the Huggins tenure for me. Don't get me wrong, I think he's done great things. But his teams have always been plagued by lapses. Just another day in my love/hate relationship with Bearcat Basketball. :dflynn: :dflynn: :dflynn: __________________ Dusty Baker, second shooter. --Confirmed on Redszone.

03-11-2005, 01:43 PM	#8
RedFanAlways1966 For a Level Playing Field Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Oakwood, OH Posts: 11,246	Re: What an embarassment, UC loses Upsets happen and do so a lot in the post-season conf. tournies. I was a bit shocked to see the Bearcts go down to a 212-RPI team (or near 212). What gets me are Coach Huggs comments on the Bob Huggins WLW show earlier in the week. Huggs was put out by an expert's opinion that UC would probably be a #6 seed in the Big Dance. He went on and on about being one of only two teams in D-I who had lost all of their games to teams that were higher than #50 in the RPI (Syracuse being the other) and how the expert was not so smart. Of course Huggs was "marketing" a high seed for his team as all coaches do. But to lose to South Fla. soon after ripping into the expert for saying they deserve a #6 seed kind of made me chuckle. They will be lucky IMO to get a #6 seed now. It is always "what have you done lately" and that loss may cause a serious dent in their seeding. __________________ Small market fan... always hoping, but never expecting.

03-11-2005, 03:03 PM	#9
Oxilon Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,133	Re: What an embarassment, UC loses Huggins can't recruit. He needs to stop visiting the junior colleges and actually go to some high schools to talk to some real talent. Their offense is just embarrasing. __________________ That hit was plenty fair. Atleast by a quarter of an inch. -Steve Stone

03-11-2005, 02:52 AM	#3
KronoRed The Lineups stink. Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: West N. Carolina Posts: 55,343	Re: What an embarassment, UC loses Not a UC fan, but UC didn't need wins in the tourney, USF did...not such a bad thing __________________ Go Gators!

03-11-2005, 12:43 PM	#6
Roy Tucker Be the ball Join Date: May 2001 Location: Mason, OH Posts: 11,128	Re: What an embarassment, UC loses Huggins' teams traditionally can't shoot worth a darn (besides Steve Logan). I couldn't believe the number of bricks they threw up last night. I can shoot better than they can and I'm 52. Hicks and Maxiell work unbelivably hard and I admire how hard they play, but both have the touch of a bricklayer. And neither can create their own shot besides offensive rebounds. And someday UC will have a point guard that will guide the team through rough stretches. I thought Muhammad was supposed to be it but he can't seem to break out of his shooting guard mold. That #3 on USF played a great game. The fact that Huggins plays a walk-on guard during real play time speaks for how thin this team is. I actually think Huggins has done a good job squeezing the most of the talent he has. __________________ The motel of lost companions Waits with heated pool and bar

03-11-2005, 04:48 PM	#12
TeamCasey Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: TeamBoone's Attic Posts: 12,317	Re: What an embarassment, UC loses My Dad's excited for the Bearcats to join the Big East. Gives us something to needle each other about. (I'm from Syracuse.) He can't wait for the Orangemen to "play against those goons."

03-11-2005, 05:16 PM	#14
SunDeck First Time Caller Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 5,227	Re: What an embarassment, UC loses I never liked Bobby Knight much, but the one thing that I did admire was the fact that the first and second half of a game he coaches never look the same. He develops a program for defeating a team and adjusts it in the locker room. All the greats to that- except Huggs. I like the defense, the work ethic, but for life of me I can not stand watching the Bearcats offense. It's frustrating that they can't get quality one guards. I don't know about the rap against Clifton. Athletes all live on campus at UC. At least they did when I was there. Their situation is pretty posh- it's not like they have to live over in Coryville. Skip didn't seem to have a problem getting some pretty good point guards to live in Avondale, did he? __________________ Dusty Baker, second shooter. --Confirmed on Redszone.

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