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Red Leader · 03-22-2005, 04:39 PM

Categories are: IP, W, L, SV, BB, K, ERA, WHIP

Which SP would you take out of this group and why?

1. Pedro Martinez
2. Ben Sheets
3. Jason Schmidt
4. Roy Oswalt
5. Curt Schilling

Above is the order I would choose them in. Wanting to get others opinions on this.

Red Leader · 03-22-2005, 05:47 PM

C'mon. Nobody wants to share what order they'd pick these SP's?

TeamCasey · 03-22-2005, 05:48 PM

Pedro kind of screwed me last year.

Red Leader · 03-22-2005, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TeamCasey

Pedro kind of screwed me last year.

I won't tell anyone. :mhcky21: :MandJ:

03-22-2005, 05:49 PM

Pedro and Sheets are definitely 1-2. Oswalt has had past injury trouble, Schilling will miss Opening Day and Schmidt has thrown a LOT of innings the past few seasons, so they all are somewhat of a gamble to get hurt, along with Pedro.

I'd go either Pedro/Sheets, followed by Schilling, Schmidt and Oswalt.

jmcclain19 · 03-22-2005, 05:56 PM

Sheets/Schmidt would be my Co-No. 1. Pedro 3 with Oswalt 4 and Schilling 5.

If Sheets was on, say Chicago instead of Milwaukee last year, he'd have won the Cy Young.

Red Leader · 03-22-2005, 06:00 PM

I actually think Pedro, Sheets, and Schmidt are all relatively close. With Schmidt and Pedro having the edge over Sheets in IP, and Sheets having the edge (slightly) in K's.

03-22-2005, 06:05 PM

Sheets will be nails this year. He won't get Wins, but I wouldn't be surprised if he had a Cy Young type year. Scmidt plays in a nice park for pitchers, but if Bonds is out for any length of time, how will that affect his win total?

MuEconRedLeg · 03-22-2005, 10:11 PM

1. Jason Schmidt
2. Ben Sheets
3. Pedro Martinez
4. Roy Oswalt
5. Curt Schilling

Johnny Footstool · 03-22-2005, 11:24 PM

Oswalt
Schmidt
Sheets
Schilling
Martinez

Scrap Irony · 03-22-2005, 11:31 PM

Sheets-- Young and improving on an underrated team. Could post Triple Crown type numbers on another team.

Schilling-- IP is a key, plus he's on a winning team.

Oswalt-- Injury history makes him a gamble. Talent does not.

Martinez-- See Oswalt. Add 10 years to his arm. 10 hard years.

Schmidt-- Great pitcher's park, no offense behind him if Bonds is hurt for more than a week or two and everyone on his team is thisclose to AARP membership.

IslandRed · 03-23-2005, 11:44 AM

I'd probably take Sheets first just because he's coming off the best year* and seems as likely as any of the others to have another really good one. But it's a really close call. I'd probably be most leery of Schilling -- at his age and with his ankle, he's the least likely to pitch in good health all year, IMO -- and Oswalt, whose peak is just slightly below the others, again IMO.

* Wins excepted, but Sheets was unlucky in that regard last year even relative to his team. You have eight pitching categories, which lessens the relative impact of wins, and given their crapshoot nature I'd go for the guy who I thought would be the biggest horse in the other categories and let the wins come out as they may.

03-22-2005, 04:39 PM	#1
Red Leader Puffy's Daddy Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Centerville, OH Posts: 20,422	Which SP would you take Categories are: IP, W, L, SV, BB, K, ERA, WHIP Which SP would you take out of this group and why? 1. Pedro Martinez 2. Ben Sheets 3. Jason Schmidt 4. Roy Oswalt 5. Curt Schilling Above is the order I would choose them in. Wanting to get others opinions on this. __________________ 'When I'm not longer rapping, I want to open up an ice cream parlor and call myself Scoop Dogg.' -Snoop on his retirement Your Mom is happy.

03-22-2005, 05:47 PM	#2
Red Leader Puffy's Daddy Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Centerville, OH Posts: 20,422	Re: Which SP would you take C'mon. Nobody wants to share what order they'd pick these SP's? __________________ 'When I'm not longer rapping, I want to open up an ice cream parlor and call myself Scoop Dogg.' -Snoop on his retirement Your Mom is happy.

03-22-2005, 05:48 PM	#3
TeamCasey Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: TeamBoone's Attic Posts: 12,317	Re: Which SP would you take Pedro kind of screwed me last year.

03-22-2005, 05:49 PM	#5
thrilljam Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Which SP would you take Pedro and Sheets are definitely 1-2. Oswalt has had past injury trouble, Schilling will miss Opening Day and Schmidt has thrown a LOT of innings the past few seasons, so they all are somewhat of a gamble to get hurt, along with Pedro. I'd go either Pedro/Sheets, followed by Schilling, Schmidt and Oswalt.

03-22-2005, 05:56 PM	#6
jmcclain19 Smells Like Teen Spirit Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Phoenix Posts: 6,486	Re: Which SP would you take Sheets/Schmidt would be my Co-No. 1. Pedro 3 with Oswalt 4 and Schilling 5. If Sheets was on, say Chicago instead of Milwaukee last year, he'd have won the Cy Young.

03-22-2005, 06:00 PM	#7
Red Leader Puffy's Daddy Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Centerville, OH Posts: 20,422	Re: Which SP would you take I actually think Pedro, Sheets, and Schmidt are all relatively close. With Schmidt and Pedro having the edge over Sheets in IP, and Sheets having the edge (slightly) in K's. __________________ 'When I'm not longer rapping, I want to open up an ice cream parlor and call myself Scoop Dogg.' -Snoop on his retirement Your Mom is happy.

03-22-2005, 06:05 PM	#8
thrilljam Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Which SP would you take Sheets will be nails this year. He won't get Wins, but I wouldn't be surprised if he had a Cy Young type year. Scmidt plays in a nice park for pitchers, but if Bonds is out for any length of time, how will that affect his win total?

03-22-2005, 10:11 PM	#9
MuEconRedLeg Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Huntington WV Posts: 622	Re: Which SP would you take 1. Jason Schmidt 2. Ben Sheets 3. Pedro Martinez 4. Roy Oswalt 5. Curt Schilling

03-22-2005, 11:24 PM	#10
Johnny Footstool Churlish Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Olathe, KS Posts: 13,663	Re: Which SP would you take Oswalt Schmidt Sheets Schilling Martinez __________________ "I prefer books and movies where the conflict isn't of the extreme cannibal apocalypse variety I guess." Redsfaithful

03-22-2005, 11:31 PM	#11
Scrap Irony Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Bedford, KY Posts: 8,992	Re: Which SP would you take Sheets-- Young and improving on an underrated team. Could post Triple Crown type numbers on another team. Schilling-- IP is a key, plus he's on a winning team. Oswalt-- Injury history makes him a gamble. Talent does not. Martinez-- See Oswalt. Add 10 years to his arm. 10 hard years. Schmidt-- Great pitcher's park, no offense behind him if Bonds is hurt for more than a week or two and everyone on his team is thisclose to AARP membership. __________________ "You can learn little from victory. You can learn everything from defeat." -- Christy Matthewson "Show me a good loser and I'll show you an idiot." -- Leo Durocher

03-23-2005, 11:44 AM	#12
IslandRed Charlie Brown All-Star Join Date: May 2001 Location: Mt. Juliet, TN Posts: 4,675	Re: Which SP would you take I'd probably take Sheets first just because he's coming off the best year* and seems as likely as any of the others to have another really good one. But it's a really close call. I'd probably be most leery of Schilling -- at his age and with his ankle, he's the least likely to pitch in good health all year, IMO -- and Oswalt, whose peak is just slightly below the others, again IMO. * Wins excepted, but Sheets was unlucky in that regard last year even relative to his team. You have eight pitching categories, which lessens the relative impact of wins, and given their crapshoot nature I'd go for the guy who I thought would be the biggest horse in the other categories and let the wins come out as they may. Last edited by IslandRed; 03-23-2005 at 11:47 AM.

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