4-20 vs Pirates [Perez vs Wilson] - RedsZone.com - Cincinnati Reds Fans' Home for Baseball Discussion

Joseph · 04-20-2005, 02:47 PM

Looks to be another tough one for the boys in Red tonight. Pittsburgh starter Oliver Perez has was 4-0 against the Reds with a 1.59 ERA and seemingly double digit strikeouts each time he faced them last year. This year he is off to a less than stellar 0-2 start with an ERA in the 9's. His control seems to be off as he only has 16 Ks and 12 BBs thru 15 IPs.

For the Reds, the ever reliable Paul Wilson gets the start. He's 3-1 lifetime against the Bucs with a respectable 3.26 ERA. He's 0-1 with an era of 6.35 this year in 3 starts.

The Reds were 9-10 last season against the Pirates, a team they should own if they want to compete for the division title.

Reds
Ryan Freel, LF
D'Angelo Jimenez, 2B
Joe Randa, 3B
Adam Dunn, 1B
Wily Mo Pena, CF
Austin Kearns, RF
Rich Aurilia, SS
Jason LaRue, C
Paul Wilson, P

Pirates
Matt Lawton, RF
Jack Wilson, SS
Tike Redman, CF
Jason Bay, LF
Daryle Ward, 1B
Bobby Hill, 3B
Rob Mackowiak, 2B
Humberto Cota, C
Oliver Perez, P

traderumor · 04-20-2005, 02:50 PM

It's all about tim--time--timing

We catch the Buccos getting beat up on and with their ace pitching after a rough start, both the team and Perez are due for a good game. But he's got to beat Wilson....

flyer85 · 04-20-2005, 02:57 PM

My lineup
Freel - has hit well off of Perez
Randa
Casey - he is 11-22 off of Perez
Kearns
Dunn - .967 OPS against Perez
Pena
Aurilia
larue

Jr has a .000 OPS as he is 0-10 against Perez.

zombie-a-go-go · 04-20-2005, 03:04 PM

Perez is going to get smoked tonight.

pedro · 04-20-2005, 03:18 PM

Dunn needs to be moved up in the lineup.

Twice Randa got out the third out the other night with men on base and the next inning Dunn led off with HR's. Now I know that they're going to picth dunn different with men on base, but still.

Joseph · 04-20-2005, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pedro

Dunn needs to be moved up in the lineup.

Twice Randa got out the third out the other night with men on base and the next inning Dunn led off with HR's. Now I know that they're going to picth dunn different with men on base, but still.

I agree, the Randa hitting 4th experiment is over. Either make it Dunn, or just as well to make it the RFer, be it Kearns or Pena. Either way, Randa back to 6th. Less pressure, more production.

OnBaseMachine · 04-20-2005, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pedro

Dunn needs to be moved up in the lineup.

Twice Randa got out the third out the other night with men on base and the next inning Dunn led off with HR's. Now I know that they're going to picth dunn different with men on base, but still.

I agree.

I would bat Dunn anywhere from second to fourth. Preferably 2nd to get him more atbats.

Falls City Beer · 04-20-2005, 03:24 PM

I hate it when the Reds face struggling teams. That's all I'll say on the matter.

flyer85 · 04-20-2005, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pedro

Dunn needs to be moved up in the lineup.

Againt RH pitching. Like it or not he still struggles against lefties.

flyer85 · 04-20-2005, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Falls City Beer

I hate it when the Reds face struggling teams. That's all I'll say on the matter.

That's because the quality Reds pitching usually gets them out of their slump.

Puffy · 04-20-2005, 03:32 PM

This would be my lineup tonight:

Freel 2B
Griffey CF
Dunn 1B
Pena LF
Kearns RF
Randa 3B
Lopez SS
LaRue C

pedro · 04-20-2005, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ricardo Cabesa

Againt RH pitching. Like it or not he still struggles against lefties.

I don't know. he's not off to a good start against them this year (0 for 10) but his career splits are pretty damn good.

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              G    AB 	R 	H 	2B 	3B 	HR 	RBI 	BB 	K 	SB 	CS 	AVG 	OBP 	SLG 	OPS 	 
 vs. Left   339   549 	74 	133 	27 	0 	36 	87 	88 	192 	9 	6 	.242 	.359 	.488 	.847 	 
 vs. Right  508   1219 	247 	307 	69 	5 	86 	194 	265 	387 	28 	8 	.252 	.391 	.528 	.919

Matt700wlw · 04-20-2005, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puffy

This would be my lineup tonight:

Freel 2B
Griffey CF
Dunn 1B
Pena LF
Kearns RF
Randa 3B
Lopez SS
LaRue C

Casey is batting .500 in his career against Perez....I say give him the day off tomorrow

Maybe sit Griffey

flyer85 · 04-20-2005, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puffy

This would be my lineup tonight:

Freel 2B
Griffey CF
Dunn 1B
Pena LF
Kearns RF
Randa 3B
Lopez SS
LaRue C

I would say Jrs 0-10 againt Perez where Casey is 11-22 will move Jr to the bench. Jr needs more days off, the Reds are just asking for trouble by running him out there 5-6 days a week.

flyer85 · 04-20-2005, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pedro

I don't know. he's not off to a good start against them this year (0 for 10) but his career splits are pretty damn good.

Last year it was 1.015 to .829. An almost 200 point diff in OPS is very significant. In the last year we have seen him really improve against RH pitching. I think it will come in time against LH pitching, we just haven't seen it yet.

04-20-2005, 02:47 PM	#1
Joseph Tired of talk. Win! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 8,144	4-20 vs Pirates [Perez vs Wilson] Looks to be another tough one for the boys in Red tonight. Pittsburgh starter Oliver Perez has was 4-0 against the Reds with a 1.59 ERA and seemingly double digit strikeouts each time he faced them last year. This year he is off to a less than stellar 0-2 start with an ERA in the 9's. His control seems to be off as he only has 16 Ks and 12 BBs thru 15 IPs. For the Reds, the ever reliable Paul Wilson gets the start. He's 3-1 lifetime against the Bucs with a respectable 3.26 ERA. He's 0-1 with an era of 6.35 this year in 3 starts. The Reds were 9-10 last season against the Pirates, a team they should own if they want to compete for the division title. Reds Ryan Freel, LF D'Angelo Jimenez, 2B Joe Randa, 3B Adam Dunn, 1B Wily Mo Pena, CF Austin Kearns, RF Rich Aurilia, SS Jason LaRue, C Paul Wilson, P Pirates Matt Lawton, RF Jack Wilson, SS Tike Redman, CF Jason Bay, LF Daryle Ward, 1B Bobby Hill, 3B Rob Mackowiak, 2B Humberto Cota, C Oliver Perez, P __________________ Championships for MY teams in my lifetime: Cincinnati Reds - 75, 76, 90 Chicago Blackhawks - 10 University of Kentucky - 78, 96, 98, 12 Cincinnati Bengals - None Chicago Bulls - 91, 92, 93, 96, 97, 98 Last edited by Joseph; 04-20-2005 at 06:50 PM. Reason: Added lineups

04-20-2005, 02:50 PM	#2
traderumor Unsolicited Opinions Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Right Down Broadway Posts: 17,743	Re: 4-20 vs Pirates [Perez vs Wilson] It's all about tim--time--timing We catch the Buccos getting beat up on and with their ace pitching after a rough start, both the team and Perez are due for a good game. But he's got to beat Wilson.... __________________ Can't win with 'em Can't win without 'em

04-20-2005, 02:57 PM	#3
flyer85 He has the Evil Eye! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: south of the border Posts: 23,858	Re: 4-20 vs Pirates [Perez vs Wilson] My lineup Freel - has hit well off of Perez Randa Casey - he is 11-22 off of Perez Kearns Dunn - .967 OPS against Perez Pena Aurilia larue Jr has a .000 OPS as he is 0-10 against Perez. __________________ What are you, people? On dope? - Mr Hand

04-20-2005, 03:04 PM	#4
zombie-a-go-go Mod Law Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Miskatonic University Posts: 4,302	Re: 4-20 vs Pirates [Perez vs Wilson] Perez is going to get smoked tonight. __________________ "It's easier to give up. I'm not a very vocal player. I lead by example. I take the attitude that I've got to go out and do it. Because of who I am, I've got to give everything I've got to come back." -Ken Griffey Jr.

04-20-2005, 03:18 PM	#5
pedro Please come again Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: portland, oregon Posts: 14,716	Re: 4-20 vs Pirates [Perez vs Wilson] Dunn needs to be moved up in the lineup. Twice Randa got out the third out the other night with men on base and the next inning Dunn led off with HR's. Now I know that they're going to picth dunn different with men on base, but still.

04-20-2005, 03:24 PM	#8
Falls City Beer Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 24,098	Re: 4-20 vs Pirates [Perez vs Wilson] I hate it when the Reds face struggling teams. That's all I'll say on the matter.

04-20-2005, 03:32 PM	#11
Puffy Puffy 3:16 Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Panama City Beach Posts: 13,703	Re: 4-20 vs Pirates [Perez vs Wilson] This would be my lineup tonight: Freel 2B Griffey CF Dunn 1B Pena LF Kearns RF Randa 3B Lopez SS LaRue C __________________ "I came here to kick ass and chew bubble gum... and I'm all out of bubble gum." - - Rowdy Roddy Piper "It takes a big man to admit when he is wrong. I am not a big man" - - Fletch

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