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medford · 05-06-2005, 06:17 PM

Hey I've never started one of these, but heard the reds lineup on the drive home...

RF Freel
2B Lopez
1B Casey
CF Griff
LF Dunn
3B Randa
SS Aurilla
C Larue (I think, but I wasn't really paying attention to this spot)
P Wilson

Interesting, first time we've seen them go with the 3 straight lefties this year. At least I believe its the first time. Griff dropped to 4th. Not perfect in my mind, but not bad either. Insert Kearns/Pena in right, Freel at second & Lopez at SS and stick with for the next month. Aurilla has shown little, & FeLo has shown that he at least deserves a long look. Interesting that they're keeping him at 2nd again, while Bergolla keeps getting more time at SS in Louisville. May be a peek into the future.

Ravenlord · 05-06-2005, 06:19 PM

he's getting better with the line up, but still has it set up to make success dificult.

i think it's quite obvious now that the Reds reward age and not ability or skill.

KronoRed · 05-06-2005, 06:21 PM

So, in order to get Lopez in the lineup (good) we have Kearns on the bench (bad) and we still have Aurilia at SS (very bad)

Come on Dave..put Aurilia on the bench.

Golgafrinchan · 05-06-2005, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravenlord

i think it's quite obvious now that the Reds reward age and not ability or skill.

Well, age... or high salary.

And I think it's a big mistake to keep both Kearns and Pena on the bench unless both of them are hurt. They're both young guys, they both need to develop. What's the point in putting them both on the bench?

Matt700wlw · 05-06-2005, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by KronoRed

So, in order to get Lopez in the lineup (good) we have Kearns on the bench (bad) and we still have Aurilia at SS (very bad)

Come on Dave..put Aurilia on the bench.

What has Kearns done to deserve to be in the lineup? If Wily Mo were healthy, he'd be in there

Golgafrinchan · 05-06-2005, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt700wlw

What has Kearns done to deserve to be in the lineup? If Wily Mo were healthy, he'd be in there

Kearns might be a member of the next good Reds team.

Rich Aurilia won't.

KronoRed · 05-06-2005, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt700wlw

What has Kearns done to deserve to be in the lineup? If Wily Mo were healthy, he'd be in there

Well he's not, and Kearns won't get better on the bench.

medford · 05-06-2005, 06:29 PM

Personally I think they rely to much on what a players done in the past, rather then trying to see what they might be able to do in the future.

Perfect example is Aurilla. You know he'll be fairly reliable. He won't commit erros, he's got a little bit of pop & he'll give you a "professional" at bat every trip to the plate. Of course you also know that in the end, he's gonna hit ya .240 with 10 homers, 40-50 rbi, clog up the bases & show very little range getting to the ball.

Meanwhile, FeLo throws a ton of balls away, and doesn't always give you a "professional" at bat. However, he's got much more range, a stronger arm, better speed & probably just as much pop, if not more, in his bat. I believe the only way to see if you can get him to develop a consistant approach both in the field and at the plate is to allow him to play as much as possible. He showed great promise at the end of last year when Larkin went down. In his short time this year, I think he's shown the same promise, yet the same inconsisnant play. Hopefully the lineups of the last 2 games reflect the reds willingness to ride out FeLo and to determine what they've got. If nothing else, Bergolla is gonna start pushing one of the middle infielders if he continues to develop at the progress he shown the last 2 season in the minors. He & EE could form a pretty solid left half of the infield. Of course this assumes that Bergolla has a decent enough arm at short. The knock is that his arm is weak, but they're playing him more at SS in AAA. Can one develop a stronger arm? I don't know, but I do like what I see at the plate (or in the box scores anyways). Seems that he could be molded into a 2 hold hitter with Freel or FeLo leading off.

Puffy · 05-06-2005, 06:30 PM

Substitute Kearns for Aurilia (Felo to SS, Freel to second, Austin to RF) and I'd be a happy camper.

I loathe the Aurilia signing.©

Ravenlord · 05-06-2005, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Golgafrinchan

Kearns might be a member of the next good Reds team.

Rich Aurilia won't.

.

OnBaseMachine · 05-06-2005, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt700wlw

What has Kearns done to deserve to be in the lineup? If Wily Mo were healthy, he'd be in there

What has Aurilia did to deserve starting?

Matt700wlw · 05-06-2005, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KronoRed

Well he's not, and Kearns won't get better on the bench.

Somehow get rid of Junior or Casey (not that I want to) and the problem is solved

flyer85 · 05-06-2005, 06:33 PM

good to know they've figured it out. Just need to play more small ball.

Ravenlord · 05-06-2005, 06:34 PM

2B Freel
SS Lopez
LF Dunn
CF Pena
RF Kearns
1B Casey
3B Randa
C LaRue

Matt700wlw · 05-06-2005, 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ravenlord

2B Freel
SS Lopez
LF Dunn
CF Pena
RF Kearns
1B Casey
3B Randa
C LaRue

Is this an updated lineup or the lineup you want?

05-06-2005, 06:17 PM	#1
medford Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 2,037	5/6 Reds vs LA game thread Hey I've never started one of these, but heard the reds lineup on the drive home... RF Freel 2B Lopez 1B Casey CF Griff LF Dunn 3B Randa SS Aurilla C Larue (I think, but I wasn't really paying attention to this spot) P Wilson Interesting, first time we've seen them go with the 3 straight lefties this year. At least I believe its the first time. Griff dropped to 4th. Not perfect in my mind, but not bad either. Insert Kearns/Pena in right, Freel at second & Lopez at SS and stick with for the next month. Aurilla has shown little, & FeLo has shown that he at least deserves a long look. Interesting that they're keeping him at 2nd again, while Bergolla keeps getting more time at SS in Louisville. May be a peek into the future.

05-06-2005, 06:19 PM	#2
Ravenlord Into de Halls of Valhalla Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: mostly Williamsburg....occassionaly the rest of the several state region. Posts: 8,909	Re: 5/6 Reds vs LA game thread he's getting better with the line up, but still has it set up to make success dificult. i think it's quite obvious now that the Reds reward age and not ability or skill. __________________ the store for all your blade, costuming (in any regard), leather (also in any regard), and steel craft needs.www.facebook.com/tdhshop yes, this really is how we make our living.

05-06-2005, 06:21 PM	#3
KronoRed The Lineups stink. Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: West N. Carolina Posts: 55,343	Re: 5/6 Reds vs LA game thread So, in order to get Lopez in the lineup (good) we have Kearns on the bench (bad) and we still have Aurilia at SS (very bad) Come on Dave..put Aurilia on the bench. __________________ Go Gators!

05-06-2005, 06:29 PM	#8
medford Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 2,037	Re: 5/6 Reds vs LA game thread Personally I think they rely to much on what a players done in the past, rather then trying to see what they might be able to do in the future. Perfect example is Aurilla. You know he'll be fairly reliable. He won't commit erros, he's got a little bit of pop & he'll give you a "professional" at bat every trip to the plate. Of course you also know that in the end, he's gonna hit ya .240 with 10 homers, 40-50 rbi, clog up the bases & show very little range getting to the ball. Meanwhile, FeLo throws a ton of balls away, and doesn't always give you a "professional" at bat. However, he's got much more range, a stronger arm, better speed & probably just as much pop, if not more, in his bat. I believe the only way to see if you can get him to develop a consistant approach both in the field and at the plate is to allow him to play as much as possible. He showed great promise at the end of last year when Larkin went down. In his short time this year, I think he's shown the same promise, yet the same inconsisnant play. Hopefully the lineups of the last 2 games reflect the reds willingness to ride out FeLo and to determine what they've got. If nothing else, Bergolla is gonna start pushing one of the middle infielders if he continues to develop at the progress he shown the last 2 season in the minors. He & EE could form a pretty solid left half of the infield. Of course this assumes that Bergolla has a decent enough arm at short. The knock is that his arm is weak, but they're playing him more at SS in AAA. Can one develop a stronger arm? I don't know, but I do like what I see at the plate (or in the box scores anyways). Seems that he could be molded into a 2 hold hitter with Freel or FeLo leading off.

05-06-2005, 06:30 PM	#9
Puffy Puffy 3:16 Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Panama City Beach Posts: 13,668	Re: 5/6 Reds vs LA game thread Substitute Kearns for Aurilia (Felo to SS, Freel to second, Austin to RF) and I'd be a happy camper. I loathe the Aurilia signing.© __________________ "I came here to kick ass and chew bubble gum... and I'm all out of bubble gum." - - Rowdy Roddy Piper "It takes a big man to admit when he is wrong. I am not a big man" - - Fletch

05-06-2005, 06:33 PM	#13
flyer85 He has the Evil Eye! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: south of the border Posts: 23,858	Re: 5/6 Reds vs LA game thread good to know they've figured it out. Just need to play more small ball.

05-06-2005, 06:34 PM	#14
Ravenlord Into de Halls of Valhalla Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: mostly Williamsburg....occassionaly the rest of the several state region. Posts: 8,909	Re: 5/6 Reds vs LA game thread 2B Freel SS Lopez LF Dunn CF Pena RF Kearns 1B Casey 3B Randa C LaRue __________________ the store for all your blade, costuming (in any regard), leather (also in any regard), and steel craft needs.www.facebook.com/tdhshop yes, this really is how we make our living.

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