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Redsland · 05-26-2005, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TeamBoone

BTW, how do reporters get this kind of information. The quoted comments about the chair were extensive.... was the guy in the room for the whole thing? Did he have a tape recorder going in order to get it all?…Are they allowed free access at any time?

The clubhouse door opens 10 minutes after the end of each game (barring an unusual delay). The reporters are welcome in there any time after that for as long as they like.

Prior to the game, clubhouses are open to the press three and a half hours before gametime, and stay open until 45 minutes before gametime.

guttle11 · 05-27-2005, 10:36 AM

As much as I love Dunn, you have to be a realist. the Reds probably wont be able to resign Dunn when his contract is up in a couple of years. Plus he is arbitration eligible EVERY year untill then, so his price will keep going up. If I had the power, I would have to look at trading Dunn.

If you could get the right deal for Dunn, I would pull it. But what would be the right package. Here is my thought

Dunn to TB for Carl Crawford, Danis Baez, and Dawon Brazelton.

Im not sure if TB would do it, probably not, but I would try it. Crawford is young, FAST, and I believe he is signed for a few years. Baez is good in the pen, and may be able to close for us, and though Brazelton is/was MIA in Durham, I think he has a good future.

All this being said, i dont think they will trade Dunn this year. Maybe in the offseason or next year. I think Lindner and co. are trying to decide wether or not to spend 10 mil a year on Dunn, but I think they will eventually say no.

Thoughts?? other trade Ideas for Dunn??

Gainesville Red · 05-27-2005, 10:39 AM

Man, if Dunn isn't having any fun here, just wait til he gets to play in Tropicana Field. Fun is a curse word there, it feels like your watching a ballgame in a morgue.

markymark69 · 05-27-2005, 10:42 AM

I would hold on to him as long as I could. If they trade him it better a home run (pardon the pun).

halcyon · 05-27-2005, 10:42 AM

If you are working under the assumption that there is no way that this team can retain the services of Adam Dunn...then I guess at some point you have to look to deal him and maximize your return.

But until I know for an absolute certainty that the Reds can't lock Dunner up on a long term basis (for fiscal reasons or otherwise), then I make every possible effort to keep him around. Players like him (mega-talent/magnetic personality) don't come around to your favorite teams very often.

guttle11 · 05-27-2005, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by halcyon

If you are working under the assumption that there is no way that this team can retain the services of Adam Dunn...then I guess at some point you have to look to deal him and maximize your return.

But until I know for an absolute certainty that the Reds can't lock Dunner up on a long term basis (for fiscal reasons or otherwise), then I make every possible effort to keep him around. Players like him (mega-talent/magnetic personality) don't come around to your favorite teams very often.

my thoughts exactly. My trade proposal was under the assumption that they thought they couldnt lock him up for fiscal reasons. I still think they can, but who knows with that FO. Heres to Dunn being a Red for another decade+

BadFundamentals · 05-27-2005, 10:50 AM

Pinella wouldn't want Dunn.

savafan · 05-27-2005, 10:51 AM

I think if the Reds had a classy organization, more players would want to stay/come here and we wouldn't be having these conversations every year.

halcyon · 05-27-2005, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by BadFundamentals

Pinella wouldn't want Dunn.

Wanna bet? I'm not necessarily sayin that the DRays would go for the above trade. But I do think he'd probably have a strong interest in Adam Dunn. He's got too much power and on base skills for even the oldest of old schoolers to ignore.

NJReds · 05-27-2005, 11:00 AM

Will they? ... Probably

Should they? ... Only for the right deal (eg: not prospects), but I have no faith in DOB to make the right move.

SteelSD · 05-27-2005, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by guttle11

As much as I love Dunn, you have to be a realist. the Reds probably wont be able to resign Dunn when his contract is up in a couple of years. Plus he is arbitration eligible EVERY year untill then, so his price will keep going up. If I had the power, I would have to look at trading Dunn.

If you could get the right deal for Dunn, I would pull it. But what would be the right package. Here is my thought

Dunn to TB for Carl Crawford, Danis Baez, and Dawon Brazelton.

Im not sure if TB would do it, probably not, but I would try it. Crawford is young, FAST, and I believe he is signed for a few years. Baez is good in the pen, and may be able to close for us, and though Brazelton is/was MIA in Durham, I think he has a good future.

All this being said, i dont think they will trade Dunn this year. Maybe in the offseason or next year. I think Lindner and co. are trying to decide wether or not to spend 10 mil a year on Dunn, but I think they will eventually say no.

Thoughts?? other trade Ideas for Dunn??

Doesn't work for the Reds.

Crawford, for all his speed, will never be able to steal first base. Without an acceptable BB rate, the guy's offensive game plays like a very low OBP doubles hitter. Brazelton was a middling prospect and will be a middling MLB pitcher. Baez is a good reliever, but those can be had without dumping your best player.

If you trade a monster like Adam Dunn, you need an Oliver Perez/Jason Bay++ type of deal coming back. I don't trust this Front Office to be able to find it.

BadFundamentals · 05-27-2005, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by halcyon

Wanna bet? I'm not necessarily sayin that the DRays would go for the above trade. But I do think he'd probably have a strong interest in Adam Dunn. He's got too much power and on base skills for even the oldest of old schoolers to ignore.

Pinella would have no interest in that many strikeouts and RISP struggles like that. Pinella was a Charlie Lau guy - all about the science of hitting etc. etc........he wouldn't want that kind of one dimensionality.

savafan · 05-27-2005, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by BadFundamentals

Pinella would have no interest in that many strikeouts and RISP struggles like that. Pinella was a Charlie Lau guy - all about the science of hitting etc. etc........he wouldn't want that kind of one dimensionality.

Okay, I get it, Adam Dunn did something mean to you when you were children. It's time to move on big guy.

BadFundamentals · 05-27-2005, 11:06 AM

I hear Pinella first hand every week. He would like a power bat right now, yes....but he also loves the scrappiness/speed/versatility of his players. He loves Crawford too by the way.

BadFundamentals · 05-27-2005, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by savafan

Okay, I get it, Adam Dunn did something mean to you when you were children. It's time to move on big guy.

this must be your big day huh? finally get to take a pot shot at me....enjoying it?

congratulations

05-27-2005, 10:36 AM	#17
guttle11 Raaaaaaaandy Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 4,118	Should the Reds trade Dunn, Will They? As much as I love Dunn, you have to be a realist. the Reds probably wont be able to resign Dunn when his contract is up in a couple of years. Plus he is arbitration eligible EVERY year untill then, so his price will keep going up. If I had the power, I would have to look at trading Dunn. If you could get the right deal for Dunn, I would pull it. But what would be the right package. Here is my thought Dunn to TB for Carl Crawford, Danis Baez, and Dawon Brazelton. Im not sure if TB would do it, probably not, but I would try it. Crawford is young, FAST, and I believe he is signed for a few years. Baez is good in the pen, and may be able to close for us, and though Brazelton is/was MIA in Durham, I think he has a good future. All this being said, i dont think they will trade Dunn this year. Maybe in the offseason or next year. I think Lindner and co. are trying to decide wether or not to spend 10 mil a year on Dunn, but I think they will eventually say no. Thoughts?? other trade Ideas for Dunn?? __________________ "I saw Wedding Crashers accidentally. I bought a ticket for Grizzly Man and went into the wrong theater. After an hour, I figured I was in the wrong theater, but I kept waiting. That’s the thing about bear attacks. They come when you least expect it."-Dwight K. Schrute

05-27-2005, 10:39 AM	#18
Gainesville Red Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 2,122	Re: Should the Reds trade Dunn, Will They? Man, if Dunn isn't having any fun here, just wait til he gets to play in Tropicana Field. Fun is a curse word there, it feels like your watching a ballgame in a morgue.

05-27-2005, 10:42 AM	#19
markymark69 Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Wheelersburg, Ohio Posts: 874	Re: Should the Reds trade Dunn, Will They? I would hold on to him as long as I could. If they trade him it better a home run (pardon the pun).

05-27-2005, 10:42 AM	#20
halcyon Habitual Line Stepper Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: VA Posts: 350	Re: Should the Reds trade Dunn, Will They? If you are working under the assumption that there is no way that this team can retain the services of Adam Dunn...then I guess at some point you have to look to deal him and maximize your return. But until I know for an absolute certainty that the Reds can't lock Dunner up on a long term basis (for fiscal reasons or otherwise), then I make every possible effort to keep him around. Players like him (mega-talent/magnetic personality) don't come around to your favorite teams very often.

05-27-2005, 10:50 AM	#22
BadFundamentals Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 833	Re: Should the Reds trade Dunn, Will They? Pinella wouldn't want Dunn.

05-27-2005, 10:51 AM	#23
savafan Maple SERP Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 17,486	Re: Should the Reds trade Dunn, Will They? I think if the Reds had a classy organization, more players would want to stay/come here and we wouldn't be having these conversations every year. __________________ This is the Cal Ripkin Jr. of typos. If you ask me to join your fantasy baseball league and I select Legolas in the first round, don't be angry at me. It's not my fault I've read up on the players and you haven't.

05-27-2005, 11:00 AM	#25
NJReds Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 5,411	Re: Should the Reds trade Dunn, Will They? Will they? ... Probably Should they? ... Only for the right deal (eg: not prospects), but I have no faith in DOB to make the right move.

05-27-2005, 11:06 AM	#29
BadFundamentals Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 833	Re: What is Dunn's contract situation? Should the Reds trade him? I hear Pinella first hand every week. He would like a power bat right now, yes....but he also loves the scrappiness/speed/versatility of his players. He loves Crawford too by the way.

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