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savafan · 08-12-2005, 11:46 PM

http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/gammo...3fid%3d2129738

Peter Gammons:

The steroid rumor mill has been spinning out of control. More than 50 players tested positive, one megastar. Clubhouse talk. Maybe it's only a dozen, but there's a bigger name than Rafael Palmeiro. That's what's going around.

At this point, this is all nothing but idle speculation, seemingly exaggerated, since the executive council hasn't been notified, and those members had known for a long time about Palmeiro, Ryan Franklin and another player whose name will soon leak out.

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/p...=.jsp&c_id=mlb

The Office of the Commissioner of Baseball today announced that minor league player Wilson Delgado, under contract to the Florida Marlins, has been suspended for 30 games, effective today, for violation of the Minor League Drug Prevention and Treatment Program.

This is the second offense this season for Delgado.

Michael Kay on ESPN Radio:

2 major stars have tested positive for steroids. At least one of them is a National Leaguer and is a potential hall of famer. The other one is an American Leaguer and is a lock for the hall of fame. The release of this player's name will be devestating to MLB and could bring the sport to it's knees. This American Leaguer is not someone you would suspect of using steroids.

redsfan30 · 08-12-2005, 11:49 PM

I'd have to think Sammy Sosa is the National Leaguer.

The American Leaguer who will "bring the game to it's knees" is very intriguing. I have no idea who that would be.

savafan · 08-12-2005, 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redsfan30

I'd have to think Sammy Sosa is the National Leaguer.

Sosa's an Oriole.

There was also some speculation that Rob Dibble was likely using steroids during the early 1990s.

Joseph · 08-12-2005, 11:52 PM

A-Rod as the American Leaguer?

To bring it to it's knees it has to be a mega star, not just a top player.

redsfan30 · 08-12-2005, 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by savafan

Sosa's an Oriole.

Wow, I feel dumb.

M2 · 08-12-2005, 11:54 PM

Sammy Sosa's in the AL.

HOF lock, plays in AL, not a guy you'd suspect, could bring the game to its knees, Michael Kay's leaking the info? A-Rod or Jeter leap to mind.

Joseph · 08-12-2005, 11:57 PM

Jeter would be another option, is he a lock for the HoF? Perhaps, and probably moreso in Kay's mind. I'd say A-Rod is in many people's mind already though. Who else fits the criteria of being a lock and current mega star?

redsfan30 · 08-12-2005, 11:58 PM

I can't think of a lock for the Hall American Leaguer who we wouldn't think of being on the juice other than ARod.

That would be a bigger bombshell than anybody in thier right mind could expect.

savafan · 08-13-2005, 12:00 AM

I also have to say that MLB isn't doing any of the non-guilty players any justice by holding back releasing the names and lending credence to a lot of speculation.

Joseph · 08-13-2005, 12:00 AM

Randy Johnson? Would he bring it to it's knees though?

I feel bad about speculating, but it's very intriguing.

CTA513 · 08-13-2005, 12:02 AM

Im thinking maybe Berkman or Bagwell, but it will probably end up being someone nobody expected. I hope the name leaks soon so we dont have to keep on guessing.

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OnBaseMachine · 08-13-2005, 12:09 AM

This is from the Marlins board. Don't know if it's true or not...

Quote:

My seat neighbor at RFK works for Baseball Weekly and he was telling us the steroid rumors. Didn't mention Delgado or any Marlins, we were talking more about how MLB would handle the situation, but supposedly there's some huge names coming out in this latest list. Names similar to Mickey Mantle or Bob Gibson in their time (I hope that reference doesn't go over any one's head, because it kind of shows how crazy we are over this whole thing).

http://www.marlinbaseball.com/forums...ic=48254&st=75

My guess:

AL: A-Rod
NL: Carlos Delgado

cincinnati chili · 08-13-2005, 12:27 AM

My guess:

A bunch of donut-swilling sportswriters spreading gossip like little schoolgirls.

paintmered · 08-13-2005, 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by savafan

This American Leaguer is not someone you would suspect of using steroids.

Ichiro?

edit: A-rod or Jeter would bring the game to its knees.

KronoRed · 08-13-2005, 12:34 AM

/\ That's why they will never be found guilty

08-12-2005, 11:46 PM	#1
savafan Maple SERP Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 17,485	More steroid rumblings http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/gammo...3fid%3d2129738 Peter Gammons: The steroid rumor mill has been spinning out of control. More than 50 players tested positive, one megastar. Clubhouse talk. Maybe it's only a dozen, but there's a bigger name than Rafael Palmeiro. That's what's going around. At this point, this is all nothing but idle speculation, seemingly exaggerated, since the executive council hasn't been notified, and those members had known for a long time about Palmeiro, Ryan Franklin and another player whose name will soon leak out. http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/p...=.jsp&c_id=mlb The Office of the Commissioner of Baseball today announced that minor league player Wilson Delgado, under contract to the Florida Marlins, has been suspended for 30 games, effective today, for violation of the Minor League Drug Prevention and Treatment Program. This is the second offense this season for Delgado. Michael Kay on ESPN Radio: 2 major stars have tested positive for steroids. At least one of them is a National Leaguer and is a potential hall of famer. The other one is an American Leaguer and is a lock for the hall of fame. The release of this player's name will be devestating to MLB and could bring the sport to it's knees. This American Leaguer is not someone you would suspect of using steroids. __________________ This is the Cal Ripkin Jr. of typos. If you ask me to join your fantasy baseball league and I select Legolas in the first round, don't be angry at me. It's not my fault I've read up on the players and you haven't.

08-12-2005, 11:49 PM	#2
redsfan30 Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 7,545	Re: More steroid rumblings I'd have to think Sammy Sosa is the National Leaguer. The American Leaguer who will "bring the game to it's knees" is very intriguing. I have no idea who that would be. __________________ "Strickland Propane... Taste the meat, not the heat." - Hank Hill

08-12-2005, 11:52 PM	#4
Joseph Tired of talk. Win! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 8,122	Re: More steroid rumblings A-Rod as the American Leaguer? To bring it to it's knees it has to be a mega star, not just a top player. __________________ Championships for MY teams in my lifetime: Cincinnati Reds - 75, 76, 90 Chicago Blackhawks - 10 University of Kentucky - 78, 96, 98, 12 Cincinnati Bengals - None Chicago Bulls - 91, 92, 93, 96, 97, 98

08-12-2005, 11:54 PM	#6
M2 Posting in Dynarama Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Boston Posts: 26,668	Re: More steroid rumblings Sammy Sosa's in the AL. HOF lock, plays in AL, not a guy you'd suspect, could bring the game to its knees, Michael Kay's leaking the info? A-Rod or Jeter leap to mind. __________________ Baseball isn't a magic trick ... it doesn't get spoiled if you figure out how it works. - gonelong I'm witchcrafting everybody.

08-12-2005, 11:57 PM	#7
Joseph Tired of talk. Win! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 8,122	Re: More steroid rumblings Jeter would be another option, is he a lock for the HoF? Perhaps, and probably moreso in Kay's mind. I'd say A-Rod is in many people's mind already though. Who else fits the criteria of being a lock and current mega star? __________________ Championships for MY teams in my lifetime: Cincinnati Reds - 75, 76, 90 Chicago Blackhawks - 10 University of Kentucky - 78, 96, 98, 12 Cincinnati Bengals - None Chicago Bulls - 91, 92, 93, 96, 97, 98

08-12-2005, 11:58 PM	#8
redsfan30 Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 7,545	Re: More steroid rumblings I can't think of a lock for the Hall American Leaguer who we wouldn't think of being on the juice other than ARod. That would be a bigger bombshell than anybody in thier right mind could expect. __________________ "Strickland Propane... Taste the meat, not the heat." - Hank Hill

08-13-2005, 12:00 AM	#9
savafan Maple SERP Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 17,485	Re: More steroid rumblings I also have to say that MLB isn't doing any of the non-guilty players any justice by holding back releasing the names and lending credence to a lot of speculation. __________________ This is the Cal Ripkin Jr. of typos. If you ask me to join your fantasy baseball league and I select Legolas in the first round, don't be angry at me. It's not my fault I've read up on the players and you haven't.

08-13-2005, 12:00 AM	#10
Joseph Tired of talk. Win! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 8,122	Re: More steroid rumblings Randy Johnson? Would he bring it to it's knees though? I feel bad about speculating, but it's very intriguing. __________________ Championships for MY teams in my lifetime: Cincinnati Reds - 75, 76, 90 Chicago Blackhawks - 10 University of Kentucky - 78, 96, 98, 12 Cincinnati Bengals - None Chicago Bulls - 91, 92, 93, 96, 97, 98

08-13-2005, 12:02 AM	#11
CTA513 Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 10,702	Re: More steroid rumblings Im thinking maybe Berkman or Bagwell, but it will probably end up being someone nobody expected. I hope the name leaks soon so we dont have to keep on guessing. :

08-13-2005, 12:27 AM	#13
cincinnati chili post hype sleeper Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Denver Posts: 10,350	Re: More steroid rumblings My guess: A bunch of donut-swilling sportswriters spreading gossip like little schoolgirls. __________________ On Dasher On Dancer On Prancer Ondrusek

08-13-2005, 12:34 AM	#15
KronoRed The Lineups stink. Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: West N. Carolina Posts: 55,342	Re: More steroid rumblings /\ That's why they will never be found guilty __________________ Go Gators!

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