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Old 12-06-2005, 06:10 PM   #1
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Casey to Pirates for Williams per Marc's blog

The Pirates are close to acquiring first baseman Sean Casey from the Reds for left-hander Dave Williams, FOXSports.com's Ken Rosenthal reports.

If this goes down, then it's safe to assume the reports of the Red Sox offering Bronson Arroyo and/or Kevin Youkilis were false. As we figured anyway. Casey is making $8.5 million next year, so Williams, a bottom-of-the-rotation lefty, is about what he's worth. Dec. 6 - 6:02 pm et
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Old 12-06-2005, 06:14 PM   #2
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Re: Casey to Pirates deal close

There you go folks. I'm in the process of confirming this now.
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Old 12-06-2005, 06:16 PM   #3
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Re: Casey to Pirates deal close

I hope this is a situation where Ken Rosenthal's tossing crap on a wall again.

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Old 12-06-2005, 06:16 PM   #4
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Re: Casey to Pirates deal close

It may have been a pipe dream to get a ML arm and a highly regarded young player, but this is certainly a big drop in talent isn't it? I must say it will be highly disappointing after initial trade rumors concerning him.
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Old 12-06-2005, 06:18 PM   #5
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Re: Casey to Pirates deal close

Looking at his splits he got absolutley lit up at home and lefties rake off him.

BP has this to say about him "sometimes he can still get it up into the high 80's"

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Old 12-06-2005, 06:19 PM   #6
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Looking at his splits he got absolutley lit up at home and lefties rake off him.

BP has this to say about him "sometimes he can still get it up into the high 80's"

eek.
Sounds like a guy suited for middle relief than the back of the rotation.

Nothing more than a salary dump folks. But still, this is a heck of a deal for the Pirates if they can pull it off.
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Old 12-06-2005, 06:19 PM   #7
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Someone take DanO and fire him. Now.
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Old 12-06-2005, 06:20 PM   #8
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Ok, now thinking about it, I agree with the salary dump statement. Earlier I said I'd trade him for anything, and it still holds true. I just suspected anything would be more than this.
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Old 12-06-2005, 06:21 PM   #9
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Re: Casey to Pirates deal close

Oh for Pete's sake! Same old crap... only worse.

Give up a good player for practically nothing in return. I can't believe a better deal can't be struck for Sean Casey! I have realy mixed feelings about seeing him leave... but at least get something better for him.
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Penny stock time, Dan O deserves this, he was sitting on some fat stock and he played it wrong.
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Old 12-06-2005, 06:24 PM   #11
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Oh for Pete's sake! Same old crap... only worse.

Give up a good player for practically nothing in return. I can't believe a better deal can't be struck for Sean Casey! I have realy mixed feelings about seeing him leave... but at least get something better for him.
Look at Sean Casey's power numbers for a lst baseman and they are horrible. Just dumping his contract is a case of addition by subtraction. Now you move Dunn to lst and play Pena everyday in the outfield. Actually the lineup might be more potent than last year's.
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Old 12-06-2005, 06:26 PM   #12
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I don't mind dumping Casey.
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Old 12-06-2005, 06:26 PM   #13
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The guy ranks in the bottom third of offensive categories for 1st basemen. What do you expect? Now use the money saved to sign Dunn to a LTC.
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Penny stock time, Dan O deserves this, he was sitting on some fat stock and he played it wrong.
Are you trying to say DanO spent a bit too much time on tea time at the meetings?
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Old 12-06-2005, 06:27 PM   #15
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Oh for Pete's sake! Same old crap... only worse.

Give up a good player for practically nothing in return. I can't believe a better deal can't be struck for Sean Casey! I have realy mixed feelings about seeing him leave... but at least get something better for him.
Maybe if Sean wasn't owed $8.5 million next year, but you aren't going to get much if they have to eat 100% of the salary. This is probably on the only thing Obie is allowed to do, dump salary.
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