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03-31-2002, 07:46 PM

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alloverjr · 03-31-2002, 08:00 PM

76-86. The starting pitching as echoed by many in the off-season will be bad. Maybe not the most horrendous rotation of all time, but not ML caliber. No real news here. However, I think the offense will be a lot weaker than many think. No bench and a starting 8 that will play together no more than 75 games due to injuries will see to that.

I'll watch the youngsters hopefully develop and mature this season, in hopes that they along with increased revenue will make 2003 exciting.

IslandRed · 03-31-2002, 08:12 PM

75-87, while hoping some of the pitching pans out and we at least hang in the wild-card race until late.

MWM · 03-31-2002, 08:14 PM

70-92

geo_j · 03-31-2002, 08:19 PM

92-70

To Mike and to Red in LA. You say that the reds are counting on players to overcome their track record?

Your prediction flys in the face of track records.

Sullivan Arm will blowup. What makes you think that? I have seen no indication of this. Most side armers have long durable careers.

Griffey has a long track record of playing most games.

Larkin's track record is that of a near hall of famer.

Casey is a career 310 plus hitter.

right now the Reds are tied for first isnt it better to root them on then to predict doom?

RedsBaron · 03-31-2002, 08:51 PM

81-81, with a strong second half, after Bob Boone is let go. I really don't know, but my worst case prediction is 76-86 and my best case is 86-76, so I split the difference.

Red Hot Reds · 03-31-2002, 09:06 PM

88-74

Krusty · 03-31-2002, 09:08 PM

I'll go with GriffeyFan and say 83-79 also. The Reds will have a horrible first half before elevating kids like Kearns, Dawkins, Howington, Armaboles and Reith to fulltime duty. <img border="0" alt="[Pimpin]" title="" src="graemlins/pimp.gif" />

volzok · 03-31-2002, 09:10 PM

I am going to go with the 92-70 crowd and here is why. This yr has been a year of destiny for certain teams. Patriots, Indiana, all ring a bell to me. A bell that this will be an unbelievable season for the Reds. Maybe not title, but more fun than any off us can imagine.

<img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

RedRoser · 03-31-2002, 09:19 PM

82-80, but Hope Springs Eternal. . .

---'Roser

oregonred · 03-31-2002, 09:54 PM

2002 Record: 76-86

Boone Starting Lineup Changes: 119

red-in-la · 03-31-2002, 10:28 PM

Reds1 and geo_j. I hope you are right and I am wrong.

As to JR, until I heard the knee thing, him having health problems was the furthest thing from my mind. But first you hear that he twists his knee, then you hear that he has been bothered by tendonitis in that knee for the whole ST. JR is not a top performer when he cannot run or shift his weight during his swing. He may play through it. But will he be an All-Century player?

I threw in Sullivan because there has NOT been a relief pitcher who pitched 500 innings in 5 years since they kept the records. And with Boone as the manager and this rotation, Sully will have to pitch 100 inning plus again this year to be anything less than a disappointment.

And Reds1, if one more poster predicts wonderful things for Larkin even as he hurts and hurts and DL's, I think I will lose it.

As to the rest of my points....their track record speaks for itself. Casey will not be the first "big man" who struggles because of a bad back. Haynes career record with Milwaukee is 20-30 with a 5 plus ERA. Geeesh. Look these things up before you post.

Acevedo was 5-7 with a 5.44 ERA last year for gosh sakes. He has NO track record that shows he will be any better this year. Not saying he cannot be, but come on.

As for Dunn and Casey totaling 76 HR's...LOL. I hope you are right.

And Graves' ERA last season was 4.14. He needs lots of save opportunities to keep his sinker working, and on this staff, his opportunities will be few and far between. Result, look the ERA to keep climbing.

letsgojunior · 03-31-2002, 10:38 PM

Jr is fine -- as I recall he played through a Baker cyst (leakage of synovial fluid in the knee) for the majority of the '99 season and hit 48 homers and drove in 134 runs. Besides, he has had two days to do nothing but rest and ice his knee, and after Monday there will an off-day on Tuesday. He can also rest and get treatment on the knee before and after games.

Falls City Beer · 03-31-2002, 10:44 PM

74-88--fourth in division. Conservative, but realistic.

letsgojunior · 03-31-2002, 10:50 PM

I'll reverse that and go with 88-74... Hey, I can be unrealistically optimistic can't I?? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

03-31-2002, 08:00 PM	#32
alloverjr getting younger Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Valley of the Sun Posts: 1,160	76-86. The starting pitching as echoed by many in the off-season will be bad. Maybe not the most horrendous rotation of all time, but not ML caliber. No real news here. However, I think the offense will be a lot weaker than many think. No bench and a starting 8 that will play together no more than 75 games due to injuries will see to that. I'll watch the youngsters hopefully develop and mature this season, in hopes that they along with increased revenue will make 2003 exciting. __________________ Just have to tip your cap tonight...

03-31-2002, 08:12 PM	#33
IslandRed Charlie Brown All-Star Join Date: May 2001 Location: Mt. Juliet, TN Posts: 4,676	75-87, while hoping some of the pitching pans out and we at least hang in the wild-card race until late. __________________ "I don't have a baseball team, I have a theological seminary." -- Charlie Brown

03-31-2002, 08:14 PM	#34
MWM Pre-tty, pre-tty good!! Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 12,171	70-92 __________________ Grape works as a soda. Sort of as a gum. I wonder why it doesn't work as a pie. Grape pie? There's no grape pie. - Larry David

03-31-2002, 08:51 PM	#36
RedsBaron Big Red Machine Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Out Wayne Posts: 22,376	81-81, with a strong second half, after Bob Boone is let go. I really don't know, but my worst case prediction is 76-86 and my best case is 86-76, so I split the difference. __________________ "Hey...Dad. Wanna Have A Catch?" Kevin Costner in "Field Of Dreams."

03-31-2002, 09:08 PM	#38
Krusty Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Williamsport, PA Posts: 12,311	I'll go with GriffeyFan and say 83-79 also. The Reds will have a horrible first half before elevating kids like Kearns, Dawkins, Howington, Armaboles and Reith to fulltime duty. <img border="0" alt="[Pimpin]" title="" src="graemlins/pimp.gif" /> __________________ If you think small, you'll go nowhere in life.

03-31-2002, 08:19 PM	#35
geo_j Member Join Date: May 2000 Posts: 1,351	92-70 To Mike and to Red in LA. You say that the reds are counting on players to overcome their track record? Your prediction flys in the face of track records. Sullivan Arm will blowup. What makes you think that? I have seen no indication of this. Most side armers have long durable careers. Griffey has a long track record of playing most games. Larkin's track record is that of a near hall of famer. Casey is a career 310 plus hitter. right now the Reds are tied for first isnt it better to root them on then to predict doom?

03-31-2002, 09:06 PM	#37
Red Hot Reds Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Covington, KY Posts: 303	88-74

03-31-2002, 09:10 PM	#39
volzok Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Batavia, Ohio Posts: 240	I am going to go with the 92-70 crowd and here is why. This yr has been a year of destiny for certain teams. Patriots, Indiana, all ring a bell to me. A bell that this will be an unbelievable season for the Reds. Maybe not title, but more fun than any off us can imagine. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

03-31-2002, 09:19 PM	#40
RedRoser "A Rose by Any Other. . " Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 3,289	82-80, but Hope Springs Eternal. . . ---'Roser

03-31-2002, 09:54 PM	#41
oregonred "So Fla Red" Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: South Florida - The Real Humidor Posts: 4,470	2002 Record: 76-86 Boone Starting Lineup Changes: 119

03-31-2002, 10:28 PM	#42
red-in-la Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Santa Paula, CA Posts: 6,536	Reds1 and geo_j. I hope you are right and I am wrong. As to JR, until I heard the knee thing, him having health problems was the furthest thing from my mind. But first you hear that he twists his knee, then you hear that he has been bothered by tendonitis in that knee for the whole ST. JR is not a top performer when he cannot run or shift his weight during his swing. He may play through it. But will he be an All-Century player? I threw in Sullivan because there has NOT been a relief pitcher who pitched 500 innings in 5 years since they kept the records. And with Boone as the manager and this rotation, Sully will have to pitch 100 inning plus again this year to be anything less than a disappointment. And Reds1, if one more poster predicts wonderful things for Larkin even as he hurts and hurts and DL's, I think I will lose it. As to the rest of my points....their track record speaks for itself. Casey will not be the first "big man" who struggles because of a bad back. Haynes career record with Milwaukee is 20-30 with a 5 plus ERA. Geeesh. Look these things up before you post. Acevedo was 5-7 with a 5.44 ERA last year for gosh sakes. He has NO track record that shows he will be any better this year. Not saying he cannot be, but come on. As for Dunn and Casey totaling 76 HR's...LOL. I hope you are right. And Graves' ERA last season was 4.14. He needs lots of save opportunities to keep his sinker working, and on this staff, his opportunities will be few and far between. Result, look the ERA to keep climbing. __________________ "Is there a problem officers?"

03-31-2002, 10:38 PM	#43
letsgojunior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 4,949	Jr is fine -- as I recall he played through a Baker cyst (leakage of synovial fluid in the knee) for the majority of the '99 season and hit 48 homers and drove in 134 runs. Besides, he has had two days to do nothing but rest and ice his knee, and after Monday there will an off-day on Tuesday. He can also rest and get treatment on the knee before and after games.

03-31-2002, 10:44 PM	#44
Falls City Beer Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 24,098	74-88--fourth in division. Conservative, but realistic.

03-31-2002, 10:50 PM	#45
letsgojunior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 4,949	I'll reverse that and go with 88-74... Hey, I can be unrealistically optimistic can't I?? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

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