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Puffy · 01-23-2006, 05:48 PM

Pitch to contact?

Tandem starters?

Man, I hope so. PTC is one of the dumbest concepts I have ever seen, and there is no evidence that the tandem system saves arms.

Hopefully, both these problems will be terminated and new, better ones will be implemented.

Red Leader · 01-23-2006, 05:54 PM

I'm sure that there will be changes, and I'd bet those two headline Castellini's list. We'll have to wait for the GM hire to see what changes are made, and I'm guessing there will be some changes in the minor leagues and those overseeing the minor league operations which will impact what changes are made as well.

In other words, Tim Naehring will be gone and a replacement will be named, probably by the new GM, and they will work together to put their "plan" into action.

Puffy · 01-23-2006, 05:55 PM

I hope so - I am no fan of Naehring. He hasn't impressed me one iota since he has been here.

Red Leader · 01-23-2006, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Puffy

I hope so - I am no fan of Naehring. He hasn't impressed me one iota since he has been here.

He's been skating an awful lot, IMO. I think he'd be decent in some roles in this franchise, but, much like O'Brien, I think he's in over his head where he's at now.

TeamBoone · 01-23-2006, 06:00 PM

Something someone mentioned on WLW... "take a strike". I don't know if it was a caller or Furman.

Did DOB mandate that, and what does it mean? I don't remember hearing it before.

Red Leader · 01-23-2006, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TeamBoone

Something someone mentioned on WLW... "take a strike". I don't know if it was a caller or Furman.

Did DOB mandate that, and what does it mean? I don't remember hearing it before.

Like when you, or I, or anyone else was in Little League, you went to the plate and forced the pitcher to throw you a strike before you could swing at a pitch.

Stupid.

I personally hated that when I was in Little League (and broke the rule all the time), so I'm sure professional hitters hate it even more.

Puffy · 01-23-2006, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by TeamBoone

Something someone mentioned on WLW... "take a strike". I don't know if it was a caller or Furman.

Did DOB mandate that, and what does it mean? I don't remember hearing it before.

In the low minors, Rookie and low A I believe, the players were required to take a strike, IIRC.

Matt700wlw · 01-23-2006, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TeamBoone

Something someone mentioned on WLW... "take a strike". I don't know if it was a caller or Furman.

Did DOB mandate that, and what does it mean? I don't remember hearing it before.

I think it was implemented in the minors, if I remember correctly.

Heath · 01-23-2006, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt700wlw

I think it was implemented in the minors, if I remember correctly.

I also think that it was yanked.

That or Tonys Gutierrez didn't listen.

Reds Fanatic · 01-23-2006, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Puffy

In the low minors, Rookie and low A I believe, the players were required to take a strike, IIRC.

I go to a lot of Dragons games and that policy of suggesting players take a strike and the tandem starters were both disasters. Hopefully they get rid of both those rules.

TeamBoone · 01-23-2006, 06:44 PM

Thanks guys. Someone on WLW (probably Furman) stated that it was another one of DOB's dumb rules.

Caveat Emperor · 01-23-2006, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Reds Fanatic

I go to a lot of Dragons games and that policy of suggesting players take a strike and the tandem starters were both disasters. Hopefully they get rid of both those rules.

Apparently the minor league fans were also starting to get upset with what they percieved to be a team that wasn't interested in playing hard and playing to win. They'd see hitters constantly get behind in the counts as they took a strike, and they'd see good pitchers getting yanked out of games on strict pitch counts when they were throwing the ball well -- that doesn't play with a crowd when they next "tandum starter" comes in and gets shelled, but has to get his work in anyway.

I don't know if that'll play any role in things...

MikeS21 · 01-23-2006, 08:01 PM

One thing Brad Kullman has pushed for is a 4-man rotation.

zombie-a-go-go · 01-23-2006, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeS21

One thing Brad Kullman has pushed for is a 4-man rotation.

I heart the four-man rotation, but with the history of Reds tossers getting yanked after 6, that's gotta mean four new pitchers.

Well, except for Aaron, who's total nails. Someone refresh my beer-soaked memory on Claussen's stamina. Does he often go 7?

letsgojunior · 01-23-2006, 08:40 PM

I'm really hoping it's the end of our "prevent offense."

01-23-2006, 05:48 PM	#1
Puffy Puffy 3:16 Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Panama City Beach Posts: 13,669	Is this the end of.... Pitch to contact? Tandem starters? Man, I hope so. PTC is one of the dumbest concepts I have ever seen, and there is no evidence that the tandem system saves arms. Hopefully, both these problems will be terminated and new, better ones will be implemented. __________________ "I came here to kick ass and chew bubble gum... and I'm all out of bubble gum." - - Rowdy Roddy Piper "It takes a big man to admit when he is wrong. I am not a big man" - - Fletch

01-23-2006, 05:54 PM	#2
Red Leader Puffy's Daddy Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Centerville, OH Posts: 20,422	Re: Is this the end of.... I'm sure that there will be changes, and I'd bet those two headline Castellini's list. We'll have to wait for the GM hire to see what changes are made, and I'm guessing there will be some changes in the minor leagues and those overseeing the minor league operations which will impact what changes are made as well. In other words, Tim Naehring will be gone and a replacement will be named, probably by the new GM, and they will work together to put their "plan" into action. __________________ 'When I'm not longer rapping, I want to open up an ice cream parlor and call myself Scoop Dogg.' -Snoop on his retirement Your Mom is happy.

01-23-2006, 05:55 PM	#3
Puffy Puffy 3:16 Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Panama City Beach Posts: 13,669	Re: Is this the end of.... I hope so - I am no fan of Naehring. He hasn't impressed me one iota since he has been here. __________________ "I came here to kick ass and chew bubble gum... and I'm all out of bubble gum." - - Rowdy Roddy Piper "It takes a big man to admit when he is wrong. I am not a big man" - - Fletch

01-23-2006, 06:00 PM	#5
TeamBoone "Let's Roll" Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 12,821	Re: Is this the end of.... Something someone mentioned on WLW... "take a strike". I don't know if it was a caller or Furman. Did DOB mandate that, and what does it mean? I don't remember hearing it before. __________________ "Enjoy this Reds fans, you are watching a legend grow up before your very eyes" ... DoogMinAmo on Adam Dunn

01-23-2006, 06:44 PM	#11
TeamBoone "Let's Roll" Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 12,821	Re: Is this the end of.... Thanks guys. Someone on WLW (probably Furman) stated that it was another one of DOB's dumb rules. __________________ "Enjoy this Reds fans, you are watching a legend grow up before your very eyes" ... DoogMinAmo on Adam Dunn

01-23-2006, 08:01 PM	#13
MikeS21 Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Ohio Posts: 3,653	Re: Is this the end of.... One thing Brad Kullman has pushed for is a 4-man rotation. __________________ Opinions are like belly buttons. Everybody has one, and they don't want someone else's shoved into their face.

01-23-2006, 08:40 PM	#15
letsgojunior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 4,949	Re: Is this the end of.... I'm really hoping it's the end of our "prevent offense."

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