Zach Greinke

[Hondo]

I have mentioned this before but wanted to bring up this Kansas City Royal pitcher. This guy throws ground balls and Allard Baird is no Genius.....The Royals added Redman, Mays, and Etherton so Greinke could be available and maybe we could offer Tony Womack!!! But really....this guy would be a great addition to the Reds Staff....I have seen Greinke pitch a couple of times and his worst enemy was Tony Pena's misuse of him.....he will be an 18 game winner easily with the "Right" team.....

[BoydsOfSummer]

Looks like he got more innings than he should have. He got hammered like a freshman on dollar draft night last year. Shell shocked is what you mean,I assume?

[ghettochild]

not only that, but the royals have repeatadly said that he is not expendable

[Sean_CaseyRules]

Originally Posted by Hondo

he will be an 18 game winner easily with the "Right" team.....

What makes you think the Reds are the "right" team, we have taken descent pitchers and turned them into garbage, look at Eric Milton.......

[Hondo]

Well, Milton's ERA went High when he went to Philly, and he just went higher with the Reds. Milton needs to be traded to the Dodgers, Mariners, or Tigers and he will be back to pitching well...GAB is just too tight of a Ball Park for him....

Greinke is just about to turn the corner......I wish the Reds would take a flyer on him.......another guy is Hayden Penn of Baltimore......

Harang
Claussen
Williams
Greinke
Penn

Maybe the Orioles would take Milton and Lopez for Tejada and Penn????

Don't think I am wishing too well......The O's need pitching and want to take care of Tejada's wishes....Ramirez is staying in Boston and Philly is only offering Abreu....The O's want pitching, and we need a Right Handed Power hitter......besides Pena

2B-Freel
RF-Kearns
1B-Dunn
SS-Tejada
CF-Griffey
RF-Pena
C-LaRue
3B-Encarancion
P- Pitcher

I don't think I am dreaming....The Orioles should be interested in Milton with his success in the American League....and they get a great substitute for Tejada in All-Star Felipe Lopez, and we get a Right Handed Clean Up hitter and a Great young Starter!!

[Ravenlord]

any pitcher will be an 18-game winner if you can give him 6 runs of support each time out.

[RedLegSuperStar]

Originally Posted by Hondo

Well, Milton's ERA went High when he went to Philly, and he just went higher with the Reds. Milton needs to be traded to the Dodgers, Mariners, or Tigers and he will be back to pitching well...GAB is just too tight of a Ball Park for him....

Greinke is just about to turn the corner......I wish the Reds would take a flyer on him.......another guy is Hayden Penn of Baltimore......

Harang
Claussen
Williams
Greinke
Penn

Maybe the Orioles would taker Milton and Lopez for Tejada and Penn????

Don't think I am wishing too well......The O's need pitching and want to take care of Tejada's wishes....Ramirez is staying in Boston and Philly is only offering Abreu....The O's want pitching, and we need a Right Handed Power hitter......besides Pena

2B-Freel
RF-Kearns
1B-Dunn
SS-Tejada
CF-Griffey
RF-Pena
C-LaRue
3B-Encarancion
P- Pitcher

I don't think I am dreaming....The Orioles should be interested in Milton with his success in the American League....and they get a great substitute for Tejada in All-Star Felipe Lopez, and we get a Right Handed Clean Up hitter and a Great young Starter!!

I'm Not One To Rip Someone.. But When You Wake Up From Your Dream Or Come Back To Earth Let Us Know! The O's Won't Even Deal Tajada For Manny And Clement For Tajada Alone.. There Is No Way They Will Trade For Felipe And Milton.. You'd Have To Deal Like Claussen / Harang, Dunn, And Possibly A Minor Leaguer Or A Guy Like Freel To Even Think About Tajada.. And Personally I'd Rather Have Lopez And Dunn As Well As Harang Or Claussen. Tajada Is Getting Older.. And Has Been Linked To Steriods (Raphie Palmeiro Stated It Was Tajada That Gave Him The Steriod). To Get Penn From A Team Like O's Who Like The Reds Who Have Offense And No Pitching Would Probably Ask For 2 Starters. Grienke Now I Heard Last Year Reds Were Offering Kearns And D'Angelo Jeminez For Him. Reds Would Be Better Off Testing The Market.. Hoping To Strike Lighting In A Bottle Then Deal Them At The Deadline For Prospects.

[M2]

If Greinke manages to stay healthy (and that's no small if) I figure he's got a chance to be become a useful major league pitcher by 2008. Mind you, I think he's got a better chance of becoming Jim Pittsley or Chris George. The Royals know nothing about pitching. If they've had talent over the past decade, they've done their level best to destroy it.

[Hondo]

Originally Posted by RedLegSuperStar

I'm Not One To Rip Someone.. But When You Wake Up From Your Dream Or Come Back To Earth Let Us Know! The O's Won't Even Deal Tajada For Manny And Clement For Tajada Alone.. There Is No Way They Will Trade For Felipe And Milton.. You'd Have To Deal Like Claussen / Harang, Dunn, And Possibly A Minor Leaguer Or A Guy Like Freel To Even Think About Tajada.. And Personally I'd Rather Have Lopez And Dunn As Well As Harang Or Claussen. Tajada Is Getting Older.. And Has Been Linked To Steriods (Raphie Palmeiro Stated It Was Tajada That Gave Him The Steriod). To Get Penn From A Team Like O's Who Like The Reds Who Have Offense And No Pitching Would Probably Ask For 2 Starters. Grienke Now I Heard Last Year Reds Were Offering Kearns And D'Angelo Jeminez For Him. Reds Would Be Better Off Testing The Market.. Hoping To Strike Lighting In A Bottle Then Deal Them At The Deadline For Prospects.

I understand what you are saying, but the reason the Orioles don't want to trade with Boston is because it is within their division and they do not want to help out the Boston Red Sox with their "Manny" issues.....They basically don't want to help Boston get better and more flexible. It was on ESPN the other night. That is the real deal holding up a Manny-Tejada swap.....

[M2]

Originally Posted by Hondo

I understand what you are saying, but the reason the Orioles don't want to trade with Boston is because it is within their division and they do not want to help out the Boston Red Sox with their "Manny" issues.....They basically don't want to help Boston get better and more flexible. It was on ESPN the other night. That is the real deal holding up a Manny-Tejada swap.....

Apparently the Orioles don't want to help themselves either.

[RedLegSuperStar]

Originally Posted by Hondo

I understand what you are saying, but the reason the Orioles don't want to trade with Boston is because it is within their division and they do not want to help out the Boston Red Sox with their "Manny" issues.....They basically don't want to help Boston get better and more flexible. It was on ESPN the other night. That is the real deal holding up a Manny-Tejada swap.....

I Don't Think Thats The Case Because They Said They Would Do The Deal If The Sox Threw In Andy Marte As Well...

But Now Tajada Has Come To Relize He Is Stuck In Baltimore And Is Removing The Trade Talks And Staying Put.

[StillFunkyB]

Originally Posted by Hondo

Well, Milton's ERA went High when he went to Philly, and he just went higher with the Reds. Milton needs to be traded to the Dodgers, Mariners, or Tigers and he will be back to pitching well...GAB is just too tight of a Ball Park for him....

Greinke is just about to turn the corner......I wish the Reds would take a flyer on him.......another guy is Hayden Penn of Baltimore......

Harang
Claussen
Williams
Greinke
Penn

Maybe the Orioles would take Milton and Lopez for Tejada and Penn????

Don't think I am wishing too well......The O's need pitching and want to take care of Tejada's wishes....Ramirez is staying in Boston and Philly is only offering Abreu....The O's want pitching, and we need a Right Handed Power hitter......besides Pena

2B-Freel
RF-Kearns
1B-Dunn
SS-Tejada
CF-Griffey
RF-Pena
C-LaRue
3B-Encarancion
P- Pitcher

I don't think I am dreaming....The Orioles should be interested in Milton with his success in the American League....and they get a great substitute for Tejada in All-Star Felipe Lopez, and we get a Right Handed Clean Up hitter and a Great young Starter!!

I'm sorry Hondo, but Eric Milton SUCKS. He has absolutely ZERO trade value.

The only thing that a different park is going to do for Milton is put his ERA slightly under six, rather than slightly over it.

[TOBTTReds]

Originally Posted by StillFunkyB

I'm sorry Hondo, but Eric Milton SUCKS. He has absolutely ZERO trade value.

The only thing that a different park is going to do for Milton is put his ERA slightly under six, rather than slightly over it.

It might not even do that.

Home: 5-6, 6.22
Away: 3-9, 6.73 :thumbdown

He pitched better in the "small" stadium. So everyone who is saying he needs a bigger park, I don't think there is a park big enough to fit his flyballs.

Do you guys remember Milton's HR's he gave up, how many were wall scrappers? Not many.

[Hondo]

Well, we have all seen ESPN by now...so Tejada has kissed and made up with the Orioles anyway...Felipe Lopez will probably become a carbon copy of Tejada from 2000-2004 anyway...in 2005-2009...

I was just making a trade idea cause The Orioles were looking for him...

Now I just want Greinke...Maybe Baird would take Milton for Greinke and Sisco???

[Topcat]

Originally Posted by Hondo

Well, we have all seen ESPN by now...so Tejada has kissed and made up with the Orioles anyway...Felipe Lopez will probably become a carbon copy of Tejada from 2000-2004 anyway...in 2005-2009...

I was just making a trade idea cause The Orioles were looking for him...

Now I just want Greinke...Maybe Baird would take Milton for Greinke and Sisco???

In what dream world would that happen ? Your kidding right