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01-31-2006, 05:49 PM
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Top 5 most underrated Reds players of past 25 years
A few that come to mind:
Mariano Duncan Joe Oliver Bo Diaz Norm Charlton Jeff Shaw Eddie Taubensee Dmitri Young |
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01-31-2006, 06:07 PM
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Re: Top 5 most underrated Reds players of past 25 years
I was thinking Mariano Duncan as well. The second name that come to mind was Billy Hatcher.
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01-31-2006, 07:10 PM
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Re: Top 5 most underrated Reds players of past 25 years
Chris Stynes
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01-31-2006, 07:14 PM
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Re: Top 5 most underrated Reds players of past 25 years
Bip Roberts
John Franco |
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01-31-2006, 07:19 PM
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Re: Top 5 most underrated Reds players of past 25 years
Scott Sullivan....the set-up types sometimes get forgotten
Eric Davis...still underrated |
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01-31-2006, 07:24 PM
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Re: Top 5 most underrated Reds players of past 25 years
Scott Sullivan
Bip Roberts Eddie Milner (The equivalent of Harry Craft) John Franco Mariano Duncan |
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01-31-2006, 07:31 PM
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Re: Top 5 most underrated Reds players of past 25 years
Jason LaRue.
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01-31-2006, 07:41 PM
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Re: Top 5 most underrated Reds players of past 25 years
This should go back 40 years...... beacuse Mike De La Hoz is clearly, hands down...the most underrated.
Besides myself. |
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01-31-2006, 07:59 PM
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Re: Top 5 most underrated Reds players of past 25 years
Rob Murphy
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01-31-2006, 08:02 PM
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Re: Top 5 most underrated Reds players of past 25 years
Mario Soto
John Franco Kevin Mitchell Bip Roberts Jason Larue Scott Sullivan
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01-31-2006, 11:14 PM
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Re: Top 5 most underrated Reds players of past 25 years
Sullivan
Milner Franco
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02-01-2006, 12:08 AM
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Re: Top 5 most underrated Reds players of past 25 years
In terms of "underrated," the first guy to come to mind is Dan Driessen. Growing up, I thought of him as a weak offensive first baseman, and a guy with unfulfilled promise (peaked at age 25).
Having learned more about run creation (and out-avoidance), he actually seems to be a pretty decent (at least average, if not above average) offensive player for his era... even at first base. His batting average and homer totals were subpar. But he got on base and had an rc/27 well over 5.00 for his Reds career. Most of the guys people are calling underrated, are guys I always thought were good.
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02-01-2006, 12:20 AM
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Re: Top 5 most underrated Reds players of past 25 years
Jason LaRue
Mike Cameron John Franco John Smiley Bo Diaz
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02-01-2006, 02:01 AM
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Re: Top 5 most underrated Reds players of past 25 years
Alex Ochoa
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02-01-2006, 02:15 AM
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Re: Top 5 most underrated Reds players of past 25 years
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Even after being beat to death by a horrible team the guy finished his career with 1730.3 IP while allowing 1395 Hits. From 1982-1985, Soto threw 1025.3 IP and allowed 786 Hits. That's ridiculous. His BB rate was 3.13 per 9IP. His HR rate was 0.90 per 9 IP. The guy never played with a truly great team. Never played with a truly great defense. Always had to struggle to get through every Inning on his own. I simply can't think of a Reds player who was more underrated in the context of overall baseball than was Mario Soto. If that guy had been on a good team who knew how to handle him, we might have seen a Hall of Fame career.
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